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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9750366" data-attributes="member: 4348">This is from AD&D.  Use this as gospel.  If they roll a character without these traits...reroll.  16 or above in at least one, just to make sure.Using that as a qualifier means that you usually can end up with a feasible character.  It may be fun to ignore it and see how well you can do, but the reason so many had higher scores at tmes (if they weren't cheating to make them) were due to following the above rule.it's amazing how many more 17 and 18s get rolled when you have to scrap any character that doesn't have at least two ability scores that are 15 or higher.Not always, but a higher chance of it.  Normally out of a party of 5 or 6 at least one character will have an 18 and several may have a 17 in one of their ability scores.Combine that with my fairness doctrine (everyone rolls up a character, but you can use anyone's rolls that you want, so if your friend rolled better than you, you can se the rolls they made instead...thus no one feels left out because they rolled "badly" comparatively to everyone else).Due to the two things above, there were times where everyone in the party had one ability score that was 18 and another that was 15 or higher.</blockquote>