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<blockquote data-quote="Numion" data-source="post: 3236497" data-attributes="member: 124"><p>Since when falling's not a risk? Krusk has a look of horror on his face - I always thought the caption was sarcastic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'd say that a companion downed and a swarm of orcs <em>is</em> dangerous, any way you look at it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO the message in this picture is that all those 'wahoo' actions ('mother may I', by another name) that were so common in previous editions, are still valid. Just pretty dangerous.</p><p></p><p>And besides, if your argument about the lack of background is to be believed Tordek is fighting a floating dragons <em>head</em>, not an actual dragon <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you would argue that someone who's not an adventurer has apparently died of cleanly severed leg and largish puncture wound to the heart? Not my first thoughts when I looked at the picture. And, if you had read the book, you would've noticed more nameless characters than the corpse and the florist.</p><p></p><p>Looking at the raise picture, the message is clear: adventurers (and their friends) can die messy deaths and that resurrections still exist in 3.0E. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, they depict PCs encountering serious hazards. It's already proven by, for example, that the example fight might turn deadly, and that Tordek is in the mouth of a dragon that could smack several 20th level characters. That is just the facts when you know the game rules. </p><p></p><p>Your paramount 'flipping in the store'-test is open to interpretation. You're the first one I've seen argue the position that they're all depictions of a cakewalk to the uninitiated 'flipper'. That's not the message I got, way back in 2000. I'd say your interpretation requires extensive knowledge of past flamewars in selected forums and the gist of the grognard argument that 3E is easy. Since I know this to be false (dying in 3E is pretty common and there are consequences for coming back IMX), <em>your</em> argument seems bizarre and certainly awfully contrived.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Numion, post: 3236497, member: 124"] Since when falling's not a risk? Krusk has a look of horror on his face - I always thought the caption was sarcastic. I'd say that a companion downed and a swarm of orcs [i]is[/i] dangerous, any way you look at it. IMO the message in this picture is that all those 'wahoo' actions ('mother may I', by another name) that were so common in previous editions, are still valid. Just pretty dangerous. And besides, if your argument about the lack of background is to be believed Tordek is fighting a floating dragons [i]head[/i], not an actual dragon ;) So you would argue that someone who's not an adventurer has apparently died of cleanly severed leg and largish puncture wound to the heart? Not my first thoughts when I looked at the picture. And, if you had read the book, you would've noticed more nameless characters than the corpse and the florist. Looking at the raise picture, the message is clear: adventurers (and their friends) can die messy deaths and that resurrections still exist in 3.0E. Yes, they depict PCs encountering serious hazards. It's already proven by, for example, that the example fight might turn deadly, and that Tordek is in the mouth of a dragon that could smack several 20th level characters. That is just the facts when you know the game rules. Your paramount 'flipping in the store'-test is open to interpretation. You're the first one I've seen argue the position that they're all depictions of a cakewalk to the uninitiated 'flipper'. That's not the message I got, way back in 2000. I'd say your interpretation requires extensive knowledge of past flamewars in selected forums and the gist of the grognard argument that 3E is easy. Since I know this to be false (dying in 3E is pretty common and there are consequences for coming back IMX), [i]your[/i] argument seems bizarre and certainly awfully contrived. [/QUOTE]
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