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<blockquote data-quote="tx7321" data-source="post: 3237760" data-attributes="member: 43146"><p>Yes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> And thanks for blowing off the point rather then addressing it (that Otus's unique style wasn't for kids or amature and was "artistic" and studied and appealed to adults who wanted a general since and mood of the place...once again, almost in a fine art kind of way). </p><p></p><p></p><p>Hey M., thanks for the link. I'll need to read it when I have a bit more time (perhaps this weekend). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>H. I'm going to give you 10 minutes to find some examples. It won't take long since almost every piece of artwork put out by WOTC share the same flaws (or I guess qualities if you like this kind of thing). </p><p></p><p></p><p>1. This guy couldn't walk. His squinty face is just stupid and hokey, and he's a pin head. Making the guy huge and kewl seems to take the place of realism and logic in 3E art. This was the first 3E pick that popped up when I googled. <a href="http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/539/539896/dd-memories-20040818070250384-001.jpg" target="_blank">http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/539/539896/dd-memories-20040818070250384-001.jpg</a></p><p></p><p>Not an example of the underwear model look of 3E, but the other look of way overly muscled and cheeky faced characters in some kind of portrait sitting not doing anything (just looking rad). This is the look you'll see on most game boxes that involve anything fantasy these days. Where the essence of the image is given rather then the story. </p><p></p><p>2. <a href="http://www.ludusbergomensis.org/giochi/torneodd2.asp" target="_blank">http://www.ludusbergomensis.org/giochi/torneodd2.asp</a> This is the second pic on google that came up. This chick looks almost straight out of 2E (with that quasi-mullet hair) but I guess its 3E. Check out her tight pants and thighs. Did you see any chicks running around in TLOR looking like that? And the face she makes stairing at the viewer looks like a bad Vouge cover rather then a real person going on an adventure. I mean, why exactly is she staring at us? Why isn't she doing anything? This is not how a real women warrior would look, this is how a model in armor would look. The guy behind her with his little vest and pumped body also very 3E. And the sad thing is, this pic. is one of the better I've seen. </p><p>What ever happened to depicting the average position, why pose and stage every shot. </p><p></p><p>3. <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:faYr_Ob2WCzrgM:http://www.mavarts.com/images/mverickarts/artforsale/WildShifter.jpg" target="_blank">http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:faYr_Ob2WCzrgM:http://www.mavarts.com/images/mverickarts/artforsale/WildShifter.jpg</a> This is the next pic that popped up (after skipping past a bunch of basically non-illustrated 3E books), Its some chick with her arms stuck up. Well she's some sort of monster by looking at her feet, but Wowwywowwow, check out that rack. And a slightly beefy but otherwise perfect figure once again in tight clothing. Swimsuit model. </p><p>This is actually good for 3E as well, her thighs aren't the size of tree trunks and her ears aren't gigantic. </p><p></p><p>4. <a href="http://www.calendars.com/images/029/2955/200600007682_fc.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.calendars.com/images/029/2955/200600007682_fc.jpg</a></p><p>The 4th pic to be illustrated that popped up. Check out the chicks stomach (another obsession with 3E artist defining chicks stomachs) she's another swimsuit model, and here is an example of the giant ears I can't stand in 3E art. Compare those babies to TLOR...and these ones are very short compared to others Iv'e seen. The fighters in the foreground look very 3E as well, hugely thick plate armor, but with pants on, too small almost squarish heads, too overly developed. </p><p>And check out that midget thing, she's wearing a "sand suite" or whatever they were called, from the movie "Dune", nice and tight, just how the teen kids supposed to like'em. I could of course keep going on making comments, but whats the point. </p><p></p><p></p><p>That wasn't fun, I hate looking at 3E art having cleared it from my system...something that took a loooooooong time. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>Anyone who can't see the difference between 1E and 3E art (when litterly the first 4 illustrated pictures that popped up on a google search are classic examples of typical 3E and D20 art in general (ie contrived, bland backgrounds, either overly muscled (all in the same fashion), or in tight cloths and too perfectly figured (ie the swimsuit model), looking at the viewer, hokey posing, lack of doing ANYTHING (with the exception of the 4th, and there just running), boring, and obviously artists who went to the same school, or who have copied each other too closely, etc. etc. etc. I could literally go on forever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tx7321, post: 3237760, member: 43146"] Yes. :D And thanks for blowing off the point rather then addressing it (that Otus's unique style wasn't for kids or amature and was "artistic" and studied and appealed to adults who wanted a general since and mood of the place...once again, almost in a fine art kind of way). Hey M., thanks for the link. I'll need to read it when I have a bit more time (perhaps this weekend). ;) H. I'm going to give you 10 minutes to find some examples. It won't take long since almost every piece of artwork put out by WOTC share the same flaws (or I guess qualities if you like this kind of thing). 1. This guy couldn't walk. His squinty face is just stupid and hokey, and he's a pin head. Making the guy huge and kewl seems to take the place of realism and logic in 3E art. This was the first 3E pick that popped up when I googled. [url]http://pcmedia.gamespy.com/pc/image/article/539/539896/dd-memories-20040818070250384-001.jpg[/url] Not an example of the underwear model look of 3E, but the other look of way overly muscled and cheeky faced characters in some kind of portrait sitting not doing anything (just looking rad). This is the look you'll see on most game boxes that involve anything fantasy these days. Where the essence of the image is given rather then the story. 2. [url]http://www.ludusbergomensis.org/giochi/torneodd2.asp[/url] This is the second pic on google that came up. This chick looks almost straight out of 2E (with that quasi-mullet hair) but I guess its 3E. Check out her tight pants and thighs. Did you see any chicks running around in TLOR looking like that? And the face she makes stairing at the viewer looks like a bad Vouge cover rather then a real person going on an adventure. I mean, why exactly is she staring at us? Why isn't she doing anything? This is not how a real women warrior would look, this is how a model in armor would look. The guy behind her with his little vest and pumped body also very 3E. And the sad thing is, this pic. is one of the better I've seen. What ever happened to depicting the average position, why pose and stage every shot. 3. [url]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:faYr_Ob2WCzrgM:http://www.mavarts.com/images/mverickarts/artforsale/WildShifter.jpg[/url] This is the next pic that popped up (after skipping past a bunch of basically non-illustrated 3E books), Its some chick with her arms stuck up. Well she's some sort of monster by looking at her feet, but Wowwywowwow, check out that rack. And a slightly beefy but otherwise perfect figure once again in tight clothing. Swimsuit model. This is actually good for 3E as well, her thighs aren't the size of tree trunks and her ears aren't gigantic. 4. [url]http://www.calendars.com/images/029/2955/200600007682_fc.jpg[/url] The 4th pic to be illustrated that popped up. Check out the chicks stomach (another obsession with 3E artist defining chicks stomachs) she's another swimsuit model, and here is an example of the giant ears I can't stand in 3E art. Compare those babies to TLOR...and these ones are very short compared to others Iv'e seen. The fighters in the foreground look very 3E as well, hugely thick plate armor, but with pants on, too small almost squarish heads, too overly developed. And check out that midget thing, she's wearing a "sand suite" or whatever they were called, from the movie "Dune", nice and tight, just how the teen kids supposed to like'em. I could of course keep going on making comments, but whats the point. That wasn't fun, I hate looking at 3E art having cleared it from my system...something that took a loooooooong time. :confused: Anyone who can't see the difference between 1E and 3E art (when litterly the first 4 illustrated pictures that popped up on a google search are classic examples of typical 3E and D20 art in general (ie contrived, bland backgrounds, either overly muscled (all in the same fashion), or in tight cloths and too perfectly figured (ie the swimsuit model), looking at the viewer, hokey posing, lack of doing ANYTHING (with the exception of the 4th, and there just running), boring, and obviously artists who went to the same school, or who have copied each other too closely, etc. etc. etc. I could literally go on forever. [/QUOTE]
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