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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 8461615" data-attributes="member: 52734">A lot of 3E's issues (as much as I loved the game at the time) was that though it was a clean-up of older editions, there were still a great many things people weren't yet ready to get rid of that ultimately unbalanced the game.&nbsp; Things the designers over the years have called &quot;proud nails&quot; and &quot;sacred cows&quot; - things I'd call &quot;compatibility with older material&quot;.&nbsp; I'm guilty of wanting to keep those items in the game, and the quadratic power of wizards was inadvertently one of them - the idea spellcasters start off weak but in the end game wield world-rocking power.&nbsp;&nbsp; The thing was, while 3E cleaned and streamlined a lot of things for the better, they also took away a lot of the restraints and power checks those classes had as well, in the guise of making things more &quot;fun&quot;.&nbsp; Looking back, it was like watching the scene between Mace &amp; Palapatine in Revenge of the Sith; unfettered by checks and balances, the wizard blew the martial out the window screaming &quot;Ultimate Power&quot; as he did so (damn you Anikan/Monte!)!Luckily, 5E has seemed to find some parity between compatibility and balance, though it's not perfect.&nbsp; We've been shown a better path, but there's still a lot of work to be done to get rid of the martial glass ceiling.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 8461615, member: 52734"] A lot of 3E's issues (as much as I loved the game at the time) was that though it was a clean-up of older editions, there were still a great many things people weren't yet ready to get rid of that ultimately unbalanced the game. Things the designers over the years have called "proud nails" and "sacred cows" - things I'd call "compatibility with older material". I'm guilty of wanting to keep those items in the game, and the quadratic power of wizards was inadvertently one of them - the idea spellcasters start off weak but in the end game wield world-rocking power. The thing was, while 3E cleaned and streamlined a lot of things for the better, they also took away a lot of the restraints and power checks those classes had as well, in the guise of making things more "fun". Looking back, it was like watching the scene between Mace & Palapatine in Revenge of the Sith; unfettered by checks and balances, the wizard blew the martial out the window screaming "Ultimate Power" as he did so (damn you Anikan/Monte!)! Luckily, 5E has seemed to find some parity between compatibility and balance, though it's not perfect. We've been shown a better path, but there's still a lot of work to be done to get rid of the martial glass ceiling. [/QUOTE]

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