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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 8463449" data-attributes="member: 6777737">There was essentially no reason to ever be a magic-user instead of a magic-user/thief in AD&amp;D. The cost was being not much more than 1 level behind since the XP to gain a level roughly doubles with each level in AD&amp;D. In exchange, you got better HP from both the larger hit die and shorter levels. You got the ability to use some weapons and armor if you were out of spells.&nbsp; You got better saves and better attack routines. And you got all the thief skills. Unless your table used the non-human racial level limits -- which, in my experience, anybody who said they did at character creation changed their mind when you got to the level cap -- there was just no reason to be single class if you were not human. And the only reason to be human were the classes that required it. Further, if you DID use the level limits, then being a single class non-human just got you to the cap that much faster! All the more reason to multiclass!Sure, fighter/mage has better equipment draw, saves, and HP, but a lot of the benefits you can't use at the same time. You could always get some elven chain and then you're doing great as a fighter/mage, but that's a gamble.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 8463449, member: 6777737"] There was essentially no reason to ever be a magic-user instead of a magic-user/thief in AD&D. The cost was being not much more than 1 level behind since the XP to gain a level roughly doubles with each level in AD&D. In exchange, you got better HP from both the larger hit die and shorter levels. You got the ability to use some weapons and armor if you were out of spells. You got better saves and better attack routines. And you got all the thief skills. Unless your table used the non-human racial level limits -- which, in my experience, anybody who said they did at character creation changed their mind when you got to the level cap -- there was just no reason to be single class if you were not human. And the only reason to be human were the classes that required it. Further, if you DID use the level limits, then being a single class non-human just got you to the cap that much faster! All the more reason to multiclass! Sure, fighter/mage has better equipment draw, saves, and HP, but a lot of the benefits you can't use at the same time. You could always get some elven chain and then you're doing great as a fighter/mage, but that's a gamble. [/QUOTE]

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