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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 8507314" data-attributes="member: 4348">The Problem was (IMNSHO) was bad game design and testing.They WANTED AD&amp;D but with rules they used to break it.&nbsp; They played 3e in testing like they did AD&amp;D, but with rules that favored them doing things a certain way.&nbsp; They HATED the balance of spellcasters in AD&amp;D because spellcasting could be ruined simply by throwing rocks very quickly at the spellcaster and disrupting the spell.&nbsp; So what did they do?&nbsp; Made it so that simply hitting a spellcaster no longer meant a spell was automatically lost.They HATED the class restrictions and the way that you were kept to dual classing or multiclassing....so they changed it so anyone could play any class (or almost, there actually were restrictions on that which many ignored) in their new multiclassing method.They designed it and ONLY had those with a like mindedness playtest it (once again, IMO).&nbsp; Because it was self contained in a jar of like minded players, it NEVER OCCURRED to them that the changes they made could be absolutely abused in ways that were absolutely unbalanced.Thus, it was MEANT to be played like AD&amp;D with houserules of their making that favored a specific playstyle.&nbsp; Within that playstyle it was balanced according to their tastes.However, they never imagined that munchkins, powergamers, and rule lawyers would find vast loopholes to make characters way beyond anything they ever imagined.Some of them wrote later that they actually intended to make a broken game (and I always roll my eyes when they do that...who PURPOSEFULLY goes out of their way to make a broken game...like...really?).That said, 3e when played without power-gaming intensity and a more relaxed way of not focusing on power gaming, is actually perhaps the most fun to play out of the 3.5/4e/Pathfinder 1e versions of the game...once again (as I've said multiple times in this post...IMNSHO).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 8507314, member: 4348"] The Problem was (IMNSHO) was bad game design and testing. They WANTED AD&D but with rules they used to break it. They played 3e in testing like they did AD&D, but with rules that favored them doing things a certain way. They HATED the balance of spellcasters in AD&D because spellcasting could be ruined simply by throwing rocks very quickly at the spellcaster and disrupting the spell. So what did they do? Made it so that simply hitting a spellcaster no longer meant a spell was automatically lost. They HATED the class restrictions and the way that you were kept to dual classing or multiclassing....so they changed it so anyone could play any class (or almost, there actually were restrictions on that which many ignored) in their new multiclassing method. They designed it and ONLY had those with a like mindedness playtest it (once again, IMO). Because it was self contained in a jar of like minded players, it NEVER OCCURRED to them that the changes they made could be absolutely abused in ways that were absolutely unbalanced. Thus, it was MEANT to be played like AD&D with houserules of their making that favored a specific playstyle. Within that playstyle it was balanced according to their tastes. However, they never imagined that munchkins, powergamers, and rule lawyers would find vast loopholes to make characters way beyond anything they ever imagined. Some of them wrote later that they actually intended to make a broken game (and I always roll my eyes when they do that...who PURPOSEFULLY goes out of their way to make a broken game...like...really?). That said, 3e when played without power-gaming intensity and a more relaxed way of not focusing on power gaming, is actually perhaps the most fun to play out of the 3.5/4e/Pathfinder 1e versions of the game...once again (as I've said multiple times in this post...IMNSHO). [/QUOTE]

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