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<blockquote data-quote="Tigh" data-source="post: 4816658" data-attributes="member: 83951">Title levelFirst: what may be facts
Second: my conjectures
Third: conclusion that I wish to share with OPFirst: what may be factsat 11th level a Wizard earns the name Wizardat 9th level a fighter earn the title Lordat 8th level a cleric used to become Patriarch.At 11th level a Wizard has the same chance to hit AC zero as a 9th level fighter and an 8th level cleric.It takes a Wizard 11 levels to attack as a SuperHero in old Chainmail: fantasy.it takes a Warrior 9, etcetera.Second: my conjecturesI believe that Title level was originally seen as the end goal.&nbsp; If this is the case a demi human with a lower level cap, actually has an easier journey to achieve title level.&nbsp; To really earn the title of Dwarf or Elf, one has to make the title level.&nbsp; An elf starts much closer to their cap than a wizard.&nbsp; I believe all this became confused with the separation of race and class.&nbsp; And of course we can't forget the lid coming off and levels extending on beyond title levels.Third: conclusion that I wish to share with OPConvert all the Demi human races into a Class.&nbsp; Subtract their level cap from the Fighters' level cap of 9.&nbsp; The result is the level a Demi human should start at.&nbsp; And then you have The Chainmail: fantasy version of demi humans.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Tigh</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tigh, post: 4816658, member: 83951"] [B]Title level[/B] [INDENT]First: what may be facts Second: my conjectures Third: conclusion that I wish to share with OP[/INDENT] [b]First:[/b] what may be facts at 11th level a Wizard earns the name Wizard at 9th level a fighter earn the title Lord at 8th level a cleric used to become Patriarch. At 11th level a Wizard has the same chance to hit AC zero as a 9th level fighter and an 8th level cleric. It takes a Wizard 11 levels to attack as a SuperHero in old Chainmail: fantasy. it takes a Warrior 9, etcetera. [B]Second[/B]: my conjectures I believe that Title level was originally seen as the end goal. If this is the case a demi human with a lower level cap, actually has an easier journey to achieve title level. To really earn the title of Dwarf or Elf, one has to make the title level. An elf starts much closer to their cap than a wizard. I believe all this became confused with the separation of race and class. And of course we can't forget the lid coming off and levels extending on beyond title levels. [B]Third[/B]: conclusion that I wish to share with OP Convert all the Demi human races into a Class. Subtract their level cap from the Fighters' level cap of 9. The result is the level a Demi human should start at. And then you have The Chainmail: fantasy version of demi humans. :) Tigh [/QUOTE]

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