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<blockquote data-quote="RUMBLETiGER" data-source="post: 6349499" data-attributes="member: 6674868">The caster level of a magic item is NOT the level a caster needs to be to make it.Consider the following crafted items (info toward the bottom of each block of text):<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/living-wall" target="_blank">Living Wall</a>- Creator must be caster level 8, item is CL 12th.<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/clockwork/clockwork-steed" target="_blank">Clockwork Steed</a>- Creator must be caster level 12, item is CL 12th.<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/golem/golem-blood" target="_blank">Blood Golem</a>- Creator must be caster level 12, item is CL 7th.The caster level of a magic item is supplied for the math when interacting with the spell effects of the magic item, such as a <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/dispel-magic" target="_blank">Dispel Magic</a> or <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/detect-magic" target="_blank">Detect Magic</a> spell.&nbsp; It is a measure of how magically powerful the item and/or it's effects are.For example, if your player is under the Fly effect of your Celestial Armor, and a enemy caster wants to bring him crashing to the ground with a targeted Dispel, the enemy caster would make the dispel check (1d20 + the enemy caster's caster level) against the magic item (DC = 11 + spell's caster level, in this case, 11&nbsp; + 5) to determine if your player falls to a grizzly death.To detect the strength of the aura of the Celestial Armor with a Detect Magic, you'd make a Knowledge (Arcana) check vs DC 15 + spell level, in this case, DC = 15 + 5, to determine the school of magic (in this case, Transmutation), and then can possibly identify it's properties with a Spellcraft check. &quot;Hey guys, I think this armor I found lets you fly!&quot; ...etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RUMBLETiGER, post: 6349499, member: 6674868"] The caster level of a magic item is NOT the level a caster needs to be to make it. Consider the following crafted items (info toward the bottom of each block of text): [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/living-wall"]Living Wall[/URL]- Creator must be caster level 8, item is CL 12th. [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/clockwork/clockwork-steed"]Clockwork Steed[/URL]- Creator must be caster level 12, item is CL 12th. [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/constructs/golem/golem-blood"]Blood Golem[/URL]- Creator must be caster level 12, item is CL 7th. The caster level of a magic item is supplied for the math when interacting with the spell effects of the magic item, such as a [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/dispel-magic"]Dispel Magic[/URL] or [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/detect-magic"]Detect Magic[/URL] spell. It is a measure of how magically powerful the item and/or it's effects are. For example, if your player is under the Fly effect of your Celestial Armor, and a enemy caster wants to bring him crashing to the ground with a targeted Dispel, the enemy caster would make the dispel check (1d20 + the enemy caster's caster level) against the magic item (DC = 11 + spell's caster level, in this case, 11 + 5) to determine if your player falls to a grizzly death. To detect the strength of the aura of the Celestial Armor with a Detect Magic, you'd make a Knowledge (Arcana) check vs DC 15 + spell level, in this case, DC = 15 + 5, to determine the school of magic (in this case, Transmutation), and then can possibly identify it's properties with a Spellcraft check. "Hey guys, I think this armor I found lets you fly!" ...etc. [/QUOTE]

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