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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 1235052" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>Now I have got to see his Spider-Man work! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now I recall some of this series. Personally, I didn't think it was that bad, mostly because the bottom line was that they were still nice and dead. If Spidey had ended up finding out that both of his parents were still alive all this time living in, say, the Red Skull's dungeon for all these years, then I'd have been somewhat annoyed.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and then we found out that they were, in fact, still alive. A mistake rectified later by finding out that they were really fakes created by (IIRC) the Chameleon at Harry Osborn's request just to get Peter. And I thought I had some issues with my parents! </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is one of those things I always wanted the straight dope on, but could never seem to find the answer. Thanks Villano!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, I wouldn't go that far...let's just say that he's getting in touch with the Superman inside.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure when exactly, since Superman was a product of the 1930's, but there was at some point an idea (apparently of the creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster) that Superman be a Nazi character! They (apparently) knew that Hitler's nazism was somewhat based on the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche, who talked about a race of supermen. However, they soon ran into the design flaw that it's hard to market a comic book about a recurring villain, especially during wartime! So, Superman became the quintessential anti-nazi, fighting them in WWII-era comics, and that was the beginning of the Supes we know and love today.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Amen to that. It seems no one has really forgotten that when Batman first applied to the Justice League, they wouldn't even validate his parking slip, let alone grant him membership. Ever since then, DC has been making absolutely sure Bats was compensated for any possible "super power envy".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ugh, "Heaven's Ladder". This is the single mini-series of DC I own, making it comprise the majority of my DC collection. It's apparently as bad as its predecessors in the whole Hal Jordan thing were. Had I bought them one at a time instead of all at once, I probably wouldn't have completed the mini-series.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hrm, okay, I'll bite.</p><p></p><p>I recently finished with the "The Hunger" a Spider-Man mini-series about Venom (that, as usual, stretched across the various Spider-Man titles).</p><p></p><p>Now, before we continue, I just want to say that although this is about Venom, and its called "The Hunger", this is not to be confused with "Venom - The Hunger", which was one of the many, many mini-series about Venom that were published one right after another on the heels of Lethal Protector. Marvel, apparently, is finally beginning to run out of titles.</p><p></p><p>My first complaint right off the bat is the artwork. I'm sorry, but Humberto Ramos just can't draw in any manner that I find serious. His work on the symbiote itself looks pretty good, but this is far and away overshadowed by the fact that normal people look like monkeys. Seriously, I'm wondering if this guy learned how to draw from watching Samurai Jack. This lackluster art is only made worse by the fact that the storyline makes itself so angsty, heightening the disparity between what you see and what you read.</p><p></p><p>In this series, we find out that Eddie Brock and the symbiote are having a falling out...I mean again. Right there, the basis can't seem to be original. Don't get me wrong, I love the symbiotes most of pretty much all Marvel characters, but geez, the way Brock and the symbiote are together, then apart, then together, ad nauseum...I'm sorry, but will someone just sit them down with Dr. Phil so they can finally work all this out?</p><p></p><p>The suit is leaving Brock periodically and draining the adrenal glands of other people...which right off the bat makes me frown. The symbiote needing adrenaline? Where did this come from? Last I heard, it needed a chemical that could only be acquired in processed chocolate or human brains (and let's face it, with the choice of eating chocolate or brains, who wouldn't take the brains?).</p><p></p><p>Spider-Man investigates, and we find out that the suit wants him back...yeah, you've seen this before. What you haven't seen before is that we find out why the symbiote <em>really</em> stuck with Eddie Brock so long...it's because Brock has terminal cancer, and always has, ever since he met the symbiote. This particular form of cancer is untreatable, and heightens his adrenaline-producing functions, so the suit has been using him as a living battery - the fact that they both hated Spider-Man was just icing on the cake, apparently.</p><p></p><p>Now, Eddie is in somewhat constant pain from his cancer (which is kept from killing him by the symbiote somehow), and the symbiote feels that, and it wants out...apparently those other times it rebonded with Brock when it didn't have to were just that it was feeling lonely (sarcasm there on my part). Seems it has something to do with the symbiote about to give birth - yeah, you read right, and no, I have no idea what it was talking about either.</p><p></p><p>The series ends with nothing being resolved, and quite a bit of Brock/Venom's motivations and some of his backstory screwed with. I just don't like the direction they're taking this guy in (and what the heck happened to Carnage?).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 1235052, member: 8461"] Now I have got to see his Spider-Man work! :D Now I recall some of this series. Personally, I didn't think it was that bad, mostly because the bottom line was that they were still nice and dead. If Spidey had ended up finding out that both of his parents were still alive all this time living in, say, the Red Skull's dungeon for all these years, then I'd have been somewhat annoyed. Oh, and then we found out that they were, in fact, still alive. A mistake rectified later by finding out that they were really fakes created by (IIRC) the Chameleon at Harry Osborn's request just to get Peter. And I thought I had some issues with my parents! This is one of those things I always wanted the straight dope on, but could never seem to find the answer. Thanks Villano! Well, I wouldn't go that far...let's just say that he's getting in touch with the Superman inside. I'm not sure when exactly, since Superman was a product of the 1930's, but there was at some point an idea (apparently of the creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster) that Superman be a Nazi character! They (apparently) knew that Hitler's nazism was somewhat based on the philosophy of Friedrich Nietzsche, who talked about a race of supermen. However, they soon ran into the design flaw that it's hard to market a comic book about a recurring villain, especially during wartime! So, Superman became the quintessential anti-nazi, fighting them in WWII-era comics, and that was the beginning of the Supes we know and love today. Amen to that. It seems no one has really forgotten that when Batman first applied to the Justice League, they wouldn't even validate his parking slip, let alone grant him membership. Ever since then, DC has been making absolutely sure Bats was compensated for any possible "super power envy". Ugh, "Heaven's Ladder". This is the single mini-series of DC I own, making it comprise the majority of my DC collection. It's apparently as bad as its predecessors in the whole Hal Jordan thing were. Had I bought them one at a time instead of all at once, I probably wouldn't have completed the mini-series. Hrm, okay, I'll bite. I recently finished with the "The Hunger" a Spider-Man mini-series about Venom (that, as usual, stretched across the various Spider-Man titles). Now, before we continue, I just want to say that although this is about Venom, and its called "The Hunger", this is not to be confused with "Venom - The Hunger", which was one of the many, many mini-series about Venom that were published one right after another on the heels of Lethal Protector. Marvel, apparently, is finally beginning to run out of titles. My first complaint right off the bat is the artwork. I'm sorry, but Humberto Ramos just can't draw in any manner that I find serious. His work on the symbiote itself looks pretty good, but this is far and away overshadowed by the fact that normal people look like monkeys. Seriously, I'm wondering if this guy learned how to draw from watching Samurai Jack. This lackluster art is only made worse by the fact that the storyline makes itself so angsty, heightening the disparity between what you see and what you read. In this series, we find out that Eddie Brock and the symbiote are having a falling out...I mean again. Right there, the basis can't seem to be original. Don't get me wrong, I love the symbiotes most of pretty much all Marvel characters, but geez, the way Brock and the symbiote are together, then apart, then together, ad nauseum...I'm sorry, but will someone just sit them down with Dr. Phil so they can finally work all this out? The suit is leaving Brock periodically and draining the adrenal glands of other people...which right off the bat makes me frown. The symbiote needing adrenaline? Where did this come from? Last I heard, it needed a chemical that could only be acquired in processed chocolate or human brains (and let's face it, with the choice of eating chocolate or brains, who wouldn't take the brains?). Spider-Man investigates, and we find out that the suit wants him back...yeah, you've seen this before. What you haven't seen before is that we find out why the symbiote [I]really[/I] stuck with Eddie Brock so long...it's because Brock has terminal cancer, and always has, ever since he met the symbiote. This particular form of cancer is untreatable, and heightens his adrenaline-producing functions, so the suit has been using him as a living battery - the fact that they both hated Spider-Man was just icing on the cake, apparently. Now, Eddie is in somewhat constant pain from his cancer (which is kept from killing him by the symbiote somehow), and the symbiote feels that, and it wants out...apparently those other times it rebonded with Brock when it didn't have to were just that it was feeling lonely (sarcasm there on my part). Seems it has something to do with the symbiote about to give birth - yeah, you read right, and no, I have no idea what it was talking about either. The series ends with nothing being resolved, and quite a bit of Brock/Venom's motivations and some of his backstory screwed with. I just don't like the direction they're taking this guy in (and what the heck happened to Carnage?). [/QUOTE]
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