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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 1235433" data-attributes="member: 9298">take into acccount that my current financial situation has left me new comicbook less for the past year. previously, i would buy just about everything.from the original list:the evil green lantern story made sense to me.hal jordan was always crazy (almost as much so as batman)seeing him snap and go on a rampage was cool and logical.saying all the fans hated it is just wrong.the only fans who hated it were those who considered hal jordan their favorite character. the rest of us were just fine with it. and LIKED it even.john byrne hasnt written anything of value since his Next Men series flopped. He is bitter at the fans and is purposely trying to sabotage the marvel and dc universes. The man is an idiot. When i was stating my displeasure with the concept of the ultimate line before it debuted,and some other retcons around the marvel and dc universe (including his own slop) he called me the "worst kind of comic book fan". i told him if  every fan that spends 200-300 a month on comics is the worst kind of fan and we all stopped buying, he'd be unemployed. I then offered to send him back every comic I own that he wrote for a refund. He declined my offer. He deserves every evil thing that can happen to a person to happen to him three times. from the later additions:avengers 291-298 was supposed to be the downfall of the Avengers.the story of them all dying/leaving was done very well.(especially loved namor using black knight's cursed sword to kill marinna, causing black kngiht to turn to stone) Unfortunately, the "new team" in 300 was brutal and the avengers never recovered until the current series #1.my own additions:LETTING DRUG-ADDLED BRITISH WRITERS OUT OF THE VERTIGO IMPRINT AND INTO THE MAINSTREAM MARVEL AND DC UNIVERSE, I'M LOOKING AT YOU GRANT MORRISON:This guy completely ignored DC continuity and any semblance of story that could be understood in JLA, so MArvel asked hiim to write X-Men. GAH!I only read the very beginning of his X-Men run, but I don't need to see the rest to know how brutal it is. I say again GAH!Not Renumbering Legion after the re-boot following Zero Hour: And DC wonders why the Legion fanbase never grows. a continuity reboot is the only good time to renumber a series...AND THEY DIDNT DO IT.  GAH!(as a side note, they randomly renumbered it later)X-Man Nate Grey:GAH! As if all the timeline-crossing X-Men like Phoenix, Bishop, and Cable werent enough, Now we're gonna take an alternate version of a Cable from another timeline and try to make him a character too?  GAH!!!!!Marvel's "Ultimate" line of comics:Marvel Executive #1: "I've been told some of our books suck. My son can't read good but he told me the problem is he can't figure out the past of our characters because theres so many back issues"Marvel Executive #2: "Should we release a new Marvel Universe Handbook? OR a mini-series to explain Marvel's history so far?"MArvel Executive #1  "I was thinking we trash everything and hire good writers and artists to make a NEW universe with modern versions of the characters."Marvel Executive #2 "Why not just use the good writers and artists on the books in the orgiinal universe?"Marvel Executive #1: "That would NEVER work.We still have all the old continuity, a new universe wouldnt have any, so EVERYONE could understand it. Even me. I wont have to remember the characters pasts or powers"Marvel Executive #2: "But won't the new universe get its OWN ridiculous convoluted comic book continuity thats just as hard to understand?"Marvel Executive #1: "Shut up! You confuse me and make my head hurt! You're fired, and I'm gonna make the ULTIMATE marvel universe.BWAHAHAHHA"GAH!!!!!!!!!!I'm sure I'm forgetting oodles and oodles of bad decisions and terrible stories, but for now I'll just jump ahead to the absolute worst things in comics.NOT HAVING TIME PASS!there is absolutely NO good reason to not have time pass in the Marvel and DC universes. There is no good reason for the "icons" to not get old and die, and pass on their mantles. There is no good reason for characters not aging, but celebrating christmas regularly. There is no good reason for Dick Grayson (and other teen heroes)  to have grown up, graduated college, graduated police academy, and aged about 15 years while the adults havent aged a day. The idea that fans are against their favorite characters growing and evolving and changing is ridiculous. It happens in real life, and in every live-action television show and movie series. These "icons" are now "out of touch" with both the next generation of kids, and their original fans.  This is the #2 reason why comic books are the bastard child of pop-culture instead of favorite son. The Valiant universe tried having a strict timeline and was sucessful. Unfortunately, its unexpected sucess led to the evil "speculators" destroying the Valiant universe and comic book industry as a whole.  When the dust settled, the first thing to go at Valiant was the time-keeping, and the door closed on the whole company soon after.Wait, thats only #2? Whats #1?NOT ADVERTISING.The comic book industry is the only industry on the planet that doesnt advertise outside of itself. Nothing. Not television ads, print ads, radio ads, NOTHING!the ridiculousness of this one speaks for itself, so I'm gonna go play D&D.</blockquote>

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