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<blockquote data-quote="Mog Elffoe" data-source="post: 1235498" data-attributes="member: 793"><p>Here's my list of comics' worst ideas:</p><p></p><p>Wonder Woman by Byrne--gotta agree with everyone here. There are a few moments when he hits the right chord, but mostly it's missteps. I actually DID like have Hippolyta become the Golden Age Wonder Woman. I had no problem with that at all, but the way he reworked the Demon's origin in that--Geez! I can't even begin to explain that. Mostly, I didn't like how *weak* Wonder Woman appeared spiritually in Byrne's run. She breaks down and openly cries on the shoulder of a MAN that she had met only days before in the first story arc. THAT bugged me. Sure, she had good reason to cry at the time, but how much more effective would it have been if she had stood strong and proud with a look of steely resolve on her face along with those tears? To me, that could've totally DEFINED the Wonder Woman character. I do like SOME of the stuff that Byrne does nowadays. I've greatly enjoyed each of his Generations series, and I am looking forward to seeing what he and Claremont do with JLA. I just saw that Jerry Ordway is going to be inking over Byrne's pencils. That ought to be a definite improvement. Their styles should blend nicely.</p><p></p><p>Spider-Man Clone Saga--I think everyone already knows why this didn't work.</p><p></p><p>Aliens and Predator crossovers with Superheroes--Okay, I *did* like the three Batman vs Predator and both of the Aliens vs Superman books, but the Superman/Predator, JLA/Predator, Batman/Aliens 1&2, Green Lantern/Aliens, and whatever else is out there just don't do it for me. I didn't buy the second Batman/Aliens or Green Lantern/Aliens, but man did the Superman/Predator and JLA/Predator and Batman/Aliens books stink. Painful reads for me.</p><p></p><p>Obsidian Age in JLA--This storyline made me drop JLA from my monthly reading list. I actually picked up many issues afterwards, but this is where I started actively disliking JLA. When Joe Kelly started getting political it was pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back with me. Not that I disagree with his politics or anything like that (even though I DO) but that those stories were just really, really bad. The Fantastic Four has just recently become a 'political' book and I'm extremely interested to see where it goes. From interviews I've read with Mark Waid, the writer on FF, I don't really agree with him politically, but he's writing a very effective story that I'm extremely interested in following. Joe Kelly's JLA stuff just grates on me in a BIG way.</p><p></p><p>Taking away Wolverine's adamantium, and then giving him BONE claws--What were they thinking here? This stunned me. STUNNED. It's like taking Superman's flight, invulnerabilty, and super strength away from him, and not just for a single story or story arc--but for YEARS. Crazy.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure there's more, but overall, I'm pretty forgiving. I may drop a book sometimes but I usually give it LOTS of second chances before I do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mog Elffoe, post: 1235498, member: 793"] Here's my list of comics' worst ideas: Wonder Woman by Byrne--gotta agree with everyone here. There are a few moments when he hits the right chord, but mostly it's missteps. I actually DID like have Hippolyta become the Golden Age Wonder Woman. I had no problem with that at all, but the way he reworked the Demon's origin in that--Geez! I can't even begin to explain that. Mostly, I didn't like how *weak* Wonder Woman appeared spiritually in Byrne's run. She breaks down and openly cries on the shoulder of a MAN that she had met only days before in the first story arc. THAT bugged me. Sure, she had good reason to cry at the time, but how much more effective would it have been if she had stood strong and proud with a look of steely resolve on her face along with those tears? To me, that could've totally DEFINED the Wonder Woman character. I do like SOME of the stuff that Byrne does nowadays. I've greatly enjoyed each of his Generations series, and I am looking forward to seeing what he and Claremont do with JLA. I just saw that Jerry Ordway is going to be inking over Byrne's pencils. That ought to be a definite improvement. Their styles should blend nicely. Spider-Man Clone Saga--I think everyone already knows why this didn't work. Aliens and Predator crossovers with Superheroes--Okay, I *did* like the three Batman vs Predator and both of the Aliens vs Superman books, but the Superman/Predator, JLA/Predator, Batman/Aliens 1&2, Green Lantern/Aliens, and whatever else is out there just don't do it for me. I didn't buy the second Batman/Aliens or Green Lantern/Aliens, but man did the Superman/Predator and JLA/Predator and Batman/Aliens books stink. Painful reads for me. Obsidian Age in JLA--This storyline made me drop JLA from my monthly reading list. I actually picked up many issues afterwards, but this is where I started actively disliking JLA. When Joe Kelly started getting political it was pretty much the straw that broke the camel's back with me. Not that I disagree with his politics or anything like that (even though I DO) but that those stories were just really, really bad. The Fantastic Four has just recently become a 'political' book and I'm extremely interested to see where it goes. From interviews I've read with Mark Waid, the writer on FF, I don't really agree with him politically, but he's writing a very effective story that I'm extremely interested in following. Joe Kelly's JLA stuff just grates on me in a BIG way. Taking away Wolverine's adamantium, and then giving him BONE claws--What were they thinking here? This stunned me. STUNNED. It's like taking Superman's flight, invulnerabilty, and super strength away from him, and not just for a single story or story arc--but for YEARS. Crazy. I'm sure there's more, but overall, I'm pretty forgiving. I may drop a book sometimes but I usually give it LOTS of second chances before I do. [/QUOTE]
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