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<blockquote data-quote="Villano" data-source="post: 1235547" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>First, thanks, everyone, for the feedback. I was afraid that I spent all that time writing my long list and no one would respond. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm actually surprised that no one mentioned "explain my continuity to me" Hawkman. Geez, he's been revamped a dozen time since Crisis.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That was the story that made me stop collecting Spider-Man, which was the first comic series I ever bought. I was collecting it on autopilot for about a year by that point as none of the stories had really been grabbing me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, I loved those issues as a kid! Gilgamesh has actually been around for awhile under the name "The Forgotten One". He fought Thor a bunch of times. They finally killed him off in a rather lame fashion. I think he was strapped to a table and offed by one of Kang's henchmen. I don't think the killer was even given a name.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I liked the fact that they were like the B team of the Avengers. Of course, West Coast Avengers was my favorite Avengers title. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah, you're right. I thought Busiek did both Kingdom Come and Marvels. It makes Waid's fumbling of Kingdom seem much worse. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Two words for you: Superman Weekly. That was the term the DC editors used when they decided they were sick of some people buying only Superman or Adventures and not picking up Action or Man Of Steel and hooked the series together with one continuing story, forcing consumers to purchase all the books to know what's going on. I'm not joking about that, either. They actually said they wanted people to buy all the books, not just one or two, so this was their way of forcing them to.</p><p></p><p>I used to collect Superman and, occassionally Adventures, but I dropped it after a month or two of Superman Weekly since it was just too damn expensive.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said before, I haven't enjoyed JLA for a good while, but Kelly has been the worst writer of the bunch. I hate it when comic writers try to get political. First, you run the risk of turning off your readership, and, secondly, Alan Moore once said that he regretted some of the influence he had on current comics since he felt that he gave them a weight they weren't meant to carry. I think that applies here.</p><p></p><p>Whenever anyone tries to bring "realism" to comics, it fails. You may want to do a story about babies with AIDS, but the guy in the cape with his underwear on the outside of his pants greatly diminishes your message.</p><p></p><p>You also end up quickly becoming trite and dated. There's a movie website that had a little article about a comic character from when he was a kid in the 70s called "Hell Rider". The cover screamed, "The NOW Superhero!". When describing the book, everytime the comic had a moment when someone said something about "sticking to the man!", the author added a snide "Wow, how 'now' can you get?!".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Villano, post: 1235547, member: 505"] First, thanks, everyone, for the feedback. I was afraid that I spent all that time writing my long list and no one would respond. :) I'm actually surprised that no one mentioned "explain my continuity to me" Hawkman. Geez, he's been revamped a dozen time since Crisis. That was the story that made me stop collecting Spider-Man, which was the first comic series I ever bought. I was collecting it on autopilot for about a year by that point as none of the stories had really been grabbing me. Oh, I loved those issues as a kid! Gilgamesh has actually been around for awhile under the name "The Forgotten One". He fought Thor a bunch of times. They finally killed him off in a rather lame fashion. I think he was strapped to a table and offed by one of Kang's henchmen. I don't think the killer was even given a name. Anyway, I liked the fact that they were like the B team of the Avengers. Of course, West Coast Avengers was my favorite Avengers title. :) Ah, you're right. I thought Busiek did both Kingdom Come and Marvels. It makes Waid's fumbling of Kingdom seem much worse. :( Two words for you: Superman Weekly. That was the term the DC editors used when they decided they were sick of some people buying only Superman or Adventures and not picking up Action or Man Of Steel and hooked the series together with one continuing story, forcing consumers to purchase all the books to know what's going on. I'm not joking about that, either. They actually said they wanted people to buy all the books, not just one or two, so this was their way of forcing them to. I used to collect Superman and, occassionally Adventures, but I dropped it after a month or two of Superman Weekly since it was just too damn expensive. As I said before, I haven't enjoyed JLA for a good while, but Kelly has been the worst writer of the bunch. I hate it when comic writers try to get political. First, you run the risk of turning off your readership, and, secondly, Alan Moore once said that he regretted some of the influence he had on current comics since he felt that he gave them a weight they weren't meant to carry. I think that applies here. Whenever anyone tries to bring "realism" to comics, it fails. You may want to do a story about babies with AIDS, but the guy in the cape with his underwear on the outside of his pants greatly diminishes your message. You also end up quickly becoming trite and dated. There's a movie website that had a little article about a comic character from when he was a kid in the 70s called "Hell Rider". The cover screamed, "The NOW Superhero!". When describing the book, everytime the comic had a moment when someone said something about "sticking to the man!", the author added a snide "Wow, how 'now' can you get?!". [/QUOTE]
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