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<blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 1238438" data-attributes="member: 9298"><p>wanted to jump back in with a few mor comments about other people's comments. </p><p></p><p>erik larsen: well besides having artwork thats a little too cartoony for me and being responsible for savage dragon, his biggest problem is the infamous "name withheld" letter where he basically says that comic books are about the art and the artists dont need writers because "anyone can write a comic book". </p><p>except you apparently. dolt. liefeld and mcfarlane got the most heat, but this is the schmuck who deserve the be slapped first.</p><p></p><p>giffen's lsh: i liked it. i havent read EVERY old legion story (although its on my things-to-do-list) but he seemed to do a pretty good job of keeping with previous continuity and told some ineresting stories. so its ok by me.</p><p></p><p>west coast avengers: this was a great series. john byrnes run on this title was amazing and the last good thing he did. force works was an incredibly stupid idea. Killing off Wonderman (again) mere weeks after he found out he was basically immortal and couldnt die because hes an energy being was ridiculous. replacing him with grey-skinned alien with fighting staff Century was even worse. oh well, all good things come to an end.</p><p></p><p>the ultimate line: without ever spending a dime, ive read the first issue or ultimate spiderman and first six issues of ultimate x-men. theyre awful. a lot of people swear by ultimate spider-man now, but this simple fact remains, if its a good spiderman story, they couldve just used it in the REGULAR series and there was no reasont o create the ultimate line. period.</p><p></p><p>aging characters: saying that the simpsons or peanuts dont age so its ok that superheroes dont age is easily the least thought out reasoning ive EVER heard. </p><p>the reason it doesnt matter for those characters is because they just exist for jokes. there is no DRAMA. in order to have dramatic tension, the characters need to change and grow. if the characters dont evolve, and only exist for "cool superhero battles" then i'm not interested. </p><p></p><p>wolverine's claws: i've never seen so much outrage about this subject. back in the day, when marvel mutants were only allowed ONE mutant power, wolverine's heightened senses and healing power were grouped together under some sort of "feral" label and fanboys used to wonder if his claws were real or not. it was a natural porgression. having Magneto rip his adamantium out was an amazing visual. popping bone claws was another great visual that revealed more about wolverine that actually MADE SENSE. The story arc of wolvy having to get used to life without the adamantium was actually a character defining moment. which is impressive for a character who is already an icon and usually a bad parody of himself. i really dont understand how anyone coul dhave thought this was lame or stupid.</p><p></p><p>dkr2: was awful. absolute garbage.</p><p></p><p>and as for what numion said about being grateful that the movie producers dont stick too true to the material. you couldnt be more wrong.</p><p>the reason the spidey and xmen movies are so great is because they are VERY CLOSE to the source material.</p><p>and as much bad stuff that has come out of the comics industy in the past 60 years, there has been more good stuff than television, movies, or books have produced. when it comes to best medium, comics wins easy.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevelabny, post: 1238438, member: 9298"] wanted to jump back in with a few mor comments about other people's comments. erik larsen: well besides having artwork thats a little too cartoony for me and being responsible for savage dragon, his biggest problem is the infamous "name withheld" letter where he basically says that comic books are about the art and the artists dont need writers because "anyone can write a comic book". except you apparently. dolt. liefeld and mcfarlane got the most heat, but this is the schmuck who deserve the be slapped first. giffen's lsh: i liked it. i havent read EVERY old legion story (although its on my things-to-do-list) but he seemed to do a pretty good job of keeping with previous continuity and told some ineresting stories. so its ok by me. west coast avengers: this was a great series. john byrnes run on this title was amazing and the last good thing he did. force works was an incredibly stupid idea. Killing off Wonderman (again) mere weeks after he found out he was basically immortal and couldnt die because hes an energy being was ridiculous. replacing him with grey-skinned alien with fighting staff Century was even worse. oh well, all good things come to an end. the ultimate line: without ever spending a dime, ive read the first issue or ultimate spiderman and first six issues of ultimate x-men. theyre awful. a lot of people swear by ultimate spider-man now, but this simple fact remains, if its a good spiderman story, they couldve just used it in the REGULAR series and there was no reasont o create the ultimate line. period. aging characters: saying that the simpsons or peanuts dont age so its ok that superheroes dont age is easily the least thought out reasoning ive EVER heard. the reason it doesnt matter for those characters is because they just exist for jokes. there is no DRAMA. in order to have dramatic tension, the characters need to change and grow. if the characters dont evolve, and only exist for "cool superhero battles" then i'm not interested. wolverine's claws: i've never seen so much outrage about this subject. back in the day, when marvel mutants were only allowed ONE mutant power, wolverine's heightened senses and healing power were grouped together under some sort of "feral" label and fanboys used to wonder if his claws were real or not. it was a natural porgression. having Magneto rip his adamantium out was an amazing visual. popping bone claws was another great visual that revealed more about wolverine that actually MADE SENSE. The story arc of wolvy having to get used to life without the adamantium was actually a character defining moment. which is impressive for a character who is already an icon and usually a bad parody of himself. i really dont understand how anyone coul dhave thought this was lame or stupid. dkr2: was awful. absolute garbage. and as for what numion said about being grateful that the movie producers dont stick too true to the material. you couldnt be more wrong. the reason the spidey and xmen movies are so great is because they are VERY CLOSE to the source material. and as much bad stuff that has come out of the comics industy in the past 60 years, there has been more good stuff than television, movies, or books have produced. when it comes to best medium, comics wins easy. [/QUOTE]
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