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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 1238990" data-attributes="member: 9298">Spider-man started as being about a "nerdy" high school kid given super-powers and how it didnt immediately clear up all his problems. The premise of the story is "with great power comes great responsibility" thats it. You can apply that to any person with spider-like powers under the mask. And if after one or two or three people wear the mask and there is no good way way to continue the story...the title ends. there will be newer heroes to take his palce. Spider-man will become a LEGEND.  As it is, spidey has graduated high school, gone to college, been in a few serious relationships, got a job, GOT MARRIED, had a kid, and progressed through his 20s to the point where he was CLEARLY about 30 years old. the writers panicked and de-aged him. Marriage? over. kid? kidnapped, presumed dead. dead aunt? brought back to life in the most retarded way possible to once again give Peter the "adult figure" in his life, reverting him back to 23.and they will probably do this again ina  few years.This is infintely more ridiculous, insulting and NOT fun than if he aged normally, had a kid, becomes a cripple (like in spidergirl) ,the spider-clone or some other character took over the suit for a while and the kid actually DID grow up and become spider-girl living in her dads footsteps. Peter eventually returns to action one last time for his blaze of glory and the spider-man mythos ENDS but lives on in legend amongst the other super-heroes.Of course ANYTHING is better than what they did to de-age poor petey.As for FF, yes, its about family. Absolutely. And replacing any of the orgiinal four with other characters for anything more than one or two issues DOESNT work.Because theyre not part of the FAMILY. But lets look at a real family. Is your relationship with your brothers/sisters/parents the same now as it was when you were all younger.  We've already had 500 issues of the other three treating johnny like a little brother. and 300 (?) issues of franklin being 4 1/2 (except when he was 6 and when he was kidnapped to the future and returned as an 18 year old like every silly sci-fi series with a baby). So Franklin aged 3 1/2 years then stopped. The Power Pack kids have aged since they hung out with him but he hasnt and this is why the whole thing is silly.One of the keys of FAMILY in the real world is how it changes and evolves from generation to generation. we are doomed to NEVER see this in the FF.  Imagine the possibilities if Johnny Storm, the former hothead was leading his nephew Franklin, a niece , and a boy named Grimm into battle as the FF. Imagine the emotional impact of seeing the foursome grow into an actual full-sized family. And all the many different relationship themes and cliches the writers would be able to play with. But no, we sit stuck in neutral for 500 more issues.Some people are completely against my idea for characters aging and evolving, but there are plenty who would love it. How do i know? The what if? concept, Earth X,  Elseworlds, alternate dimensions, even the ultimate line to some degree are sucessful because the characters are stuck in neutral.  Things can happen, characters can die, relationships can actually suceed happily  or fail without having to be dredged up every year, mantles can be passed for longer than a story-arc. the status isnt quo.CHANGE IS GOOD. and change, mr anderson , is inevitable.</blockquote>

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