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<blockquote data-quote="TiQuinn" data-source="post: 1244251" data-attributes="member: 4871"><p>I'm not saying that continuity is impossible, but I'm saying the attention paid to continuity borders on ludicrous. Comic books shouldn't have to explain why Peter Parker took 15 years to get through high school and college. It shouldn't have to explain why Batman never ages, yet Robin got older and became Nightwing. Their first mistake was ever addressing it to begin with it.</p><p></p><p>There was only an inkling of continuity in the Golden Age. If the Joker was killed in Detective Comics #40 and returned in Detective Comics #58 (and I don't know if Joker appeared in these issues or not, it's just an hypothetical), maybe the writers would come up with a story about how he survived....but maybe not. It wasn't as great a concern at that time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is exactly my point. Crisis was not only a failure in terms of what it was trying to do, it was IMO a poorly thought out, poorly written mess. The fact that they went to all this trouble for the sake of continuity was silly. Marvel may get slammed for its ret-cons and for just ignoring some of the things that have happened before, but it was able to avoid that mess as a result. Also, I don't see the Ultimate line as a attempt to solve the continuity problem. Ultimate came out at a time when interest in the Marvel superhero line was waning considerably. I figure that reboots are less about cleaning up house, as they are providing a starting point for new readers, and to let writers rehash old stories perhaps with a new twist and some new characters.</p><p></p><p>As for what I'd do, I'd simply ignore age. Nobody cared that Aunt May was 115 years old. You don't ask why James Bond looked about 40 years old in the 1960's, and doesn't look a day older 40 years later. Have the editors maintain a storyline for each comic along with a list of what dangling threads haven't been tied up. The worst problems occur when some little secret is revealed in issue #210 of X-Men and then fails to be discussed again until issue #289. If they take care of these threads, the stories will be better and continuity problems will be minimized or possibly even non-existant.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Funny...daytime soap operas handle their continuity in a way not unlike comics. Go to IMDB.com and pull up the cast listing of Days of Our Lives or General Hospital. Notice how many characters are listed as Jason Quartermaine #1, Jason Quartermaine #2, #3 and so on. How about Hope Brady #5? They've had no problem keeping several characters the exact same age for 20 or 30 years. Plus a soap opera hardly ever "lets" characters go. There's always an evil twin somewhere. Of course none of this has stopped people from watching these things religiously for years. No cries of messed up continuity from the audience.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TiQuinn, post: 1244251, member: 4871"] I'm not saying that continuity is impossible, but I'm saying the attention paid to continuity borders on ludicrous. Comic books shouldn't have to explain why Peter Parker took 15 years to get through high school and college. It shouldn't have to explain why Batman never ages, yet Robin got older and became Nightwing. Their first mistake was ever addressing it to begin with it. There was only an inkling of continuity in the Golden Age. If the Joker was killed in Detective Comics #40 and returned in Detective Comics #58 (and I don't know if Joker appeared in these issues or not, it's just an hypothetical), maybe the writers would come up with a story about how he survived....but maybe not. It wasn't as great a concern at that time. This is exactly my point. Crisis was not only a failure in terms of what it was trying to do, it was IMO a poorly thought out, poorly written mess. The fact that they went to all this trouble for the sake of continuity was silly. Marvel may get slammed for its ret-cons and for just ignoring some of the things that have happened before, but it was able to avoid that mess as a result. Also, I don't see the Ultimate line as a attempt to solve the continuity problem. Ultimate came out at a time when interest in the Marvel superhero line was waning considerably. I figure that reboots are less about cleaning up house, as they are providing a starting point for new readers, and to let writers rehash old stories perhaps with a new twist and some new characters. As for what I'd do, I'd simply ignore age. Nobody cared that Aunt May was 115 years old. You don't ask why James Bond looked about 40 years old in the 1960's, and doesn't look a day older 40 years later. Have the editors maintain a storyline for each comic along with a list of what dangling threads haven't been tied up. The worst problems occur when some little secret is revealed in issue #210 of X-Men and then fails to be discussed again until issue #289. If they take care of these threads, the stories will be better and continuity problems will be minimized or possibly even non-existant. Funny...daytime soap operas handle their continuity in a way not unlike comics. Go to IMDB.com and pull up the cast listing of Days of Our Lives or General Hospital. Notice how many characters are listed as Jason Quartermaine #1, Jason Quartermaine #2, #3 and so on. How about Hope Brady #5? They've had no problem keeping several characters the exact same age for 20 or 30 years. Plus a soap opera hardly ever "lets" characters go. There's always an evil twin somewhere. Of course none of this has stopped people from watching these things religiously for years. No cries of messed up continuity from the audience. [/QUOTE]
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