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<blockquote data-quote="Ragmon" data-source="post: 6379226" data-attributes="member: 99604"><p>Why not just keep the 3rd edition (yes, 2nd Edition AC in reverse <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />)? If stacking, just be smart about the design, if you look at 5th then you will see they have a ton of AC bonuses from various sources, just that they don't have AC types.</p><p> The 5th edition version is very poorly implemented, and the developers could have done a much better job.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, its easy to use. But in the end its unnecessary. The customization rules for backgrounds would have been enough as a guide line. </p><p>Those 15 pages of background descriptions of almost pure fluff could have been used for...em I don't know, magic items, so my players know what to spend their gold on beyond rations and healing potions (yea yea, magic items are coming in the DMG... could have just inserted into the PHB, since their almost and essential part of a PC anyway). </p><p> TLDR: The players and the DM provide the background fluff, its not needed in the PHB at all. All the crunch parts of the background could have fit on one page.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I doubt it, the best they can do is the usual heal a bit after resting and not fully...but why would such a rule not be a core rule in the PHB instead of the one we have right now?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes I have some beef with these rules, AC has been dumbed down (I belive that the devs do not believe that the players can handle a bit more complex system).</p><p>Example of a correction: 10 + armor + shield + dex + natural armor + Class specific + magic.... I'm just describing 2nd 3rd and 4th edition AC by the looks of it...and people knew how to use those systems.</p><p>I just see people asking in 5th "so leather is 11+dex...but what is my AC without armor?"</p><p></p><p>Backgrounds...again: For the past...I dono... 30 some years people in TTRPGs didn't need backgrounds to define their characters...they used their imaginations.</p><p></p><p>And one last thing, and I'm not sure if this is a Gygax qoute or not..."The first 4 levels played IS your background (story)".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ragmon, post: 6379226, member: 99604"] Why not just keep the 3rd edition (yes, 2nd Edition AC in reverse :P)? If stacking, just be smart about the design, if you look at 5th then you will see they have a ton of AC bonuses from various sources, just that they don't have AC types. The 5th edition version is very poorly implemented, and the developers could have done a much better job. Yes, its easy to use. But in the end its unnecessary. The customization rules for backgrounds would have been enough as a guide line. Those 15 pages of background descriptions of almost pure fluff could have been used for...em I don't know, magic items, so my players know what to spend their gold on beyond rations and healing potions (yea yea, magic items are coming in the DMG... could have just inserted into the PHB, since their almost and essential part of a PC anyway). TLDR: The players and the DM provide the background fluff, its not needed in the PHB at all. All the crunch parts of the background could have fit on one page. I doubt it, the best they can do is the usual heal a bit after resting and not fully...but why would such a rule not be a core rule in the PHB instead of the one we have right now? Yes I have some beef with these rules, AC has been dumbed down (I belive that the devs do not believe that the players can handle a bit more complex system). Example of a correction: 10 + armor + shield + dex + natural armor + Class specific + magic.... I'm just describing 2nd 3rd and 4th edition AC by the looks of it...and people knew how to use those systems. I just see people asking in 5th "so leather is 11+dex...but what is my AC without armor?" Backgrounds...again: For the past...I dono... 30 some years people in TTRPGs didn't need backgrounds to define their characters...they used their imaginations. And one last thing, and I'm not sure if this is a Gygax qoute or not..."The first 4 levels played IS your background (story)". [/QUOTE]
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