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<blockquote data-quote="timASW" data-source="post: 6040693" data-attributes="member: 6698787"><p>4e got yanked because it caused D&D to stop being 'the" TTRPG and in many markets ceded that to pathfinder. </p><p></p><p>Its anacedotal sure but take a look at meetup.com sometime, or the gamers wanted here, and in pen and paper RPG, and Giants in the playground, And the other big online forums. </p><p></p><p>Hardly anyone is running 4e games, lots of players say they will play anything but 4e. </p><p></p><p>It was simply a failed idea. It appealed to a niche of the market and made the mistake of thinking that niche was a majority. </p><p></p><p>It wasnt. </p><p></p><p>Activism had nothing to do with it. It was sales, interest, and ultimately market share that told them to can 4e and go back to the drawing board. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I dont think their current approach will make what I think is the perfect game. At all. But I think it might make a game I am willing to play and pay for. And maybe some of the of people playing pathfinder right now too.</p><p></p><p>Because really lets face it. Pathfinder is 3.75 and it has most of the issues of 3e and some new ones all its own. Is it better then 4e? Yes. But only by the barest of dirty <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> hairs. </p><p></p><p>WoTC could blow PF out of the water if they wanted to. But they need to do it while keeping a majority of 4e fans too. And thats why they are dancing on a hot stove there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="timASW, post: 6040693, member: 6698787"] 4e got yanked because it caused D&D to stop being 'the" TTRPG and in many markets ceded that to pathfinder. Its anacedotal sure but take a look at meetup.com sometime, or the gamers wanted here, and in pen and paper RPG, and Giants in the playground, And the other big online forums. Hardly anyone is running 4e games, lots of players say they will play anything but 4e. It was simply a failed idea. It appealed to a niche of the market and made the mistake of thinking that niche was a majority. It wasnt. Activism had nothing to do with it. It was sales, interest, and ultimately market share that told them to can 4e and go back to the drawing board. I dont think their current approach will make what I think is the perfect game. At all. But I think it might make a game I am willing to play and pay for. And maybe some of the of people playing pathfinder right now too. Because really lets face it. Pathfinder is 3.75 and it has most of the issues of 3e and some new ones all its own. Is it better then 4e? Yes. But only by the barest of dirty :):):) hairs. WoTC could blow PF out of the water if they wanted to. But they need to do it while keeping a majority of 4e fans too. And thats why they are dancing on a hot stove there. [/QUOTE]
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