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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6040957" data-attributes="member: 7006">That depends on what you'd consider "failed".Taken from the standpoint of finances... I would bet they made more money from '08 to '12 selling 4E core product than they ever would have made still selling 3.5 "extended" product.  And while Paizo got away with creating and selling 3.75... had WotC tried to do that instead of creating 4E... I think they would've gotten so lambasted by the gaming populace that they wouldn't have even come close to 4E's sales.  We bought into 3.5 a mere 3 years after 3.0... but a 3.75 would've been looked upon even less fondly.Now if you're taking it from the standpoint of a "longterm game solution"... then yes, absolutely.  4E's window for product release looks to be around the same as 3.0s and a little less than 3.5s.  So it was not the "end all and be all" Dungeons & Dragons game that people might've thought it was supposed to be.Of course... anyone who thinks that D&DN is going to be that "longterm solution" I think is fooling themselves too.  ;-)  Regardless of how good or not good it ends up being... we're still going to see a new edition about five years hence, because that's just now the way this niche hobby sustains itself year to year.</blockquote>