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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6041753" data-attributes="member: 42582">His follow-up edit is very interesting.He's not saying that 4e is broken as a game in the sense of delivering a bad play exeprience. He's saying that its broken as a commercial game product that WotC is relying on as its flagship RPG. What caused that breakage? Rouse outlines a few factors:* DDI failures;* GSL failures;* Essentials.My own feeling is that the apparent lack of a strategy to deal with a large-scale 3PP attempt to keep 3E alive seems to have been the biggest failure. This is bigger than just not having the GSL good to go (and remember that Rouse, back in the relevant period, defended WotC's prerogative to license a game it had spent millions developing in a more restrictive fashion than the OGL). It's about lacking a marketing strategy to respond to the sort of campaign that [MENTION=996]Tony Vargas[/MENTION] is talking about.I agree that Essentials was also a debacle from the marketing point of view - and so obviously a debacle that it's hard to credit rational business people endorsing it as a strategy - but by that point I think the damage had already been done.</blockquote>