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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 6677579" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p>Historically, a Knight had the following aspects:</p><p></p><p>First and foremost, they were Cavalry - whether lightly armored or heavily armored, but shield use as standard - and trained in both the charge with lance (long spear) and melee combat from horseback (cruciform arming sword, falchion, mace, etc.). Cavalry is the etymological root of Chevalier/Cavalier. </p><p></p><p>Second, they <em>served</em> a liege lord - whether a baron, king, or church. Even hedge knights, when actually being a knight, served <em>somebody</em> - even if it was only temporary and mostly for the money, and very similar to the Japanese concept of Ronin. The etymology of Knight is <em>servant/retainer</em>.</p><p></p><p>Nobility was not a prerequisite for being a Knight. It made it easier, because one could better afford what a Knight required (horse, care of said horse, armor, weapons), but this stuff could be provided by a liege if one had the necessary training and skills - and could prove one had the necessary training and skills (a display of abilities, vouched for by another such as "he and I squired together for Baron Smith", etc).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the late medieval period, for the most part you'd be correct, but the medieval period encompassed almost a thousand years of history. The only constants throughout the entire period are what I listed above. Other aspects that were only important during certain parts of the medieval period were:</p><p></p><p>Chivalry - didn't become a thing until late 12th century/early 13th century - so only for about the last 200 to 300 years of the medieval period.</p><p></p><p>Plate Armor - didn't really come into being until the 13th century, and didn't hit its peak until almost the 15th century - so only for about the last 100 to 200 years of the medieval period and extending into the renaissance period for another hundred or so.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally, the thing that most symbolized a Knight wasn't armor, or even a sword (a sword symbolized <em>money</em>, and didn't necessarily signify nobility). In fact, not all knights used or preferred a sword. They often used a mace, Morningstar, or even an axe as a primary weapon; and if they did use a sword, it was just as likely (or possibly <em>more</em> likely) that they used a falchion rather than a cruciform "Knightly" sword. </p><p></p><p>What most symbolized a Knight was their <em>spurs</em>. Becoming a knight meant <em>"earning your spurs."</em> This goes back to the stipulation that Knights are first and foremost, Cavalry.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From a fantasy/D&D perspective, and consistent with historical context, a Knight class would have to have the following attributes/equipment:</p><p></p><p>Mounted Combat Proficiency</p><p>Melee Combat Proficiency</p><p>Lance/Long Spear proficiency and Ability to Charge/Joust</p><p>Simple and Martial Weapons</p><p>All Armor and Shields</p><p><strong><em>Not</em></strong> a Ranged Weapon Combatant</p><p>Possible Adherence to Chivalry, Definite Fealty to a Liege</p><p>A Liege Lord or Hedge Knight status</p><p>Own a horse or have a horse provided by a Liege</p><p>Own weapons and armor or provided by a Liege</p><p>Spurs</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 6677579, member: 59506"] Historically, a Knight had the following aspects: First and foremost, they were Cavalry - whether lightly armored or heavily armored, but shield use as standard - and trained in both the charge with lance (long spear) and melee combat from horseback (cruciform arming sword, falchion, mace, etc.). Cavalry is the etymological root of Chevalier/Cavalier. Second, they [I]served[/I] a liege lord - whether a baron, king, or church. Even hedge knights, when actually being a knight, served [I]somebody[/I] - even if it was only temporary and mostly for the money, and very similar to the Japanese concept of Ronin. The etymology of Knight is [I]servant/retainer[/I]. Nobility was not a prerequisite for being a Knight. It made it easier, because one could better afford what a Knight required (horse, care of said horse, armor, weapons), but this stuff could be provided by a liege if one had the necessary training and skills - and could prove one had the necessary training and skills (a display of abilities, vouched for by another such as "he and I squired together for Baron Smith", etc). In the late medieval period, for the most part you'd be correct, but the medieval period encompassed almost a thousand years of history. The only constants throughout the entire period are what I listed above. Other aspects that were only important during certain parts of the medieval period were: Chivalry - didn't become a thing until late 12th century/early 13th century - so only for about the last 200 to 300 years of the medieval period. Plate Armor - didn't really come into being until the 13th century, and didn't hit its peak until almost the 15th century - so only for about the last 100 to 200 years of the medieval period and extending into the renaissance period for another hundred or so. Finally, the thing that most symbolized a Knight wasn't armor, or even a sword (a sword symbolized [I]money[/I], and didn't necessarily signify nobility). In fact, not all knights used or preferred a sword. They often used a mace, Morningstar, or even an axe as a primary weapon; and if they did use a sword, it was just as likely (or possibly [I]more[/I] likely) that they used a falchion rather than a cruciform "Knightly" sword. What most symbolized a Knight was their [I]spurs[/I]. Becoming a knight meant [I]"earning your spurs."[/I] This goes back to the stipulation that Knights are first and foremost, Cavalry. From a fantasy/D&D perspective, and consistent with historical context, a Knight class would have to have the following attributes/equipment: Mounted Combat Proficiency Melee Combat Proficiency Lance/Long Spear proficiency and Ability to Charge/Joust Simple and Martial Weapons All Armor and Shields [B][I]Not[/I][/B] a Ranged Weapon Combatant Possible Adherence to Chivalry, Definite Fealty to a Liege A Liege Lord or Hedge Knight status Own a horse or have a horse provided by a Liege Own weapons and armor or provided by a Liege Spurs [/QUOTE]
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