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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 6678191" data-attributes="member: 20323">While I agree that making a Knight class is probably overkill, I think the concept could merit a fighter sub-class. Why?1. First, there's legacy. Look back at BD&amp;D and the 3 specializations you could take as a fighter were Paladin, Avenger, and Knight (the latter being the only one not covered by the 5e Paladin). In 2e/3e there were Knights of Solamnia classes and Knight character kits/prestige classes. It's an archetype that appeals to people.2. Second, the 3.5e Knight class (and to a lesser extent the 4e Essential Knight) introduced class abilities that were flavorful and are not replicable thru other means in 5th edition -- charging/jousting/mounted combat proficiency, challenges, hard for enemies to bypass, able to shield others, resistant to charm and fear.3. Third, there are ways to handle challenges that won't get the &quot;non-magical mind-control! non-magical mind control&quot; brigade's panties in a bunch.4. Fourth, conceptually such a character could have the Noble background, but not necessarily. Say the sub-class is called the Banner Knight. Others (NPCs or PCs of any class) may gain knighthood thru birthright or as a gift from a monarch, but the Banner Knight lives and breathes his oath of fealty whether he came into it because of his station or because his knighthood was earned in the field of battle.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 6678191, member: 20323"] While I agree that making a Knight class is probably overkill, I think the concept could merit a fighter sub-class. Why? 1. First, there's legacy. Look back at BD&D and the 3 specializations you could take as a fighter were Paladin, Avenger, and Knight (the latter being the only one not covered by the 5e Paladin). In 2e/3e there were Knights of Solamnia classes and Knight character kits/prestige classes. It's an archetype that appeals to people. 2. Second, the 3.5e Knight class (and to a lesser extent the 4e Essential Knight) introduced class abilities that were flavorful and are not replicable thru other means in 5th edition -- charging/jousting/mounted combat proficiency, challenges, hard for enemies to bypass, able to shield others, resistant to charm and fear. 3. Third, there are ways to handle challenges that won't get the [I]"non-magical mind-control! non-magical mind control"[/I] brigade's panties in a bunch. 4. Fourth, conceptually such a character could have the Noble background, but not necessarily. Say the sub-class is called the [B]Banner Knight[/B]. Others (NPCs or PCs of any class) may gain knighthood thru birthright or as a gift from a monarch, but the Banner Knight lives and breathes his oath of fealty whether he came into it because of his station or because his knighthood was earned in the field of battle. [/QUOTE]

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