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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6266157" data-attributes="member: 6696971">This one is always tough as its so dependent upon so many other questions (the ones you mention in your lead post!), but I'll take a crack.One of the best things the 4e did for the Fighter, IME, is (i) they coupled all of the relevant Altheltics sub-categories together (such that the skill itself carries considerably heft) and (ii) made it all but impossible for Fighters to not be great athletes.  This is how it should be.  Fighters are either genetically advantaged, honed by relentless training, refined by technique, or a combination of all three.  This inevitably leads to someone who has superior spatial awareness, proprioception, core strength, muscle memory, and body balance.  Fighters should be great at all of the relevant Athletics by proxy of this.I've always liked the idea of Fighters having some sort of Renown or Reputation that yields them advantage (and perhaps interesting thematic complications) in interactions (from Intimidating to Diplomancing).  They may not have a great Charisma score, but this bonus makes up for that (or buffs it if they do have an above average Charisma).  This could provide all manner of bonuses, from intelligence (such as Streetwise), to the ability to curry favor by gaining field support (such as troops/followers), downtime lodgings to recover (such as a barracks or temple to the God of War), to scene-transitioning-transport (straight to the sought locale with a fortified caravan or a skyship - Poor Man's Teleport).Tools of the Trade.  Unfortunately, all of those proficiencies (all armors, all weapons) are supposed to advantage Fighters and be a large part of their "total package value", but inevitably they just yield a singular point of specialization.  If there was more utility built into Fighter proficiencies (different armors being better in different situations - such as heavy, cumbersome armor for mass combats but light, mobile armor for duels - or different weapons being better in different situations - such as 4e handles it in the Fighter Weaponmaster Exploits) overall.  I think Fighters should have those as default.  Then you get into sub-categories that they can spec into.  They're likely have exposure to such as Pilot/Ride, Insight (learning to read people through gaming, leading, or serving), Survival, Field Triage/Heal, Intimidate, Inspire/Bolster Courage/Instill Belief.Dungeon World of course has some great Fighter abilities that any High Fantasy system should take advantage of.  The ability for Epic Level Fighters to actually see the fight before it happens (play it out in their mind - sort of a mundane precog), and see who lives, see who dies, and gain advantage from that is particularly awesome.</blockquote>

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