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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 6266971" data-attributes="member: 6701124">In PF Those would be the Cavalier alternate class, Ranger core class, and Urban Ranger archetype.  I don't understand why they all need the name "Fighter" attached to them to count.I'd argue that shows the druid animal companion needs to be nerfed and nothing bad about the fighter. Can the fighter pick up useful help with Leadership?As @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=17106" target="_blank">Ahnehnois</a> and @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6681948" target="_blank">N'raac</a> note above, don't we already do that for the other classes?PF does archetypes for every class. In D&D proper there is the Paladin, Ranger, and Barbarian playing off the Fighter; the Druid playing off the Cleric; the Clerical domains in 3e or the specialty priests in 2e; the schools of wizardry in 2e and 3e; the Sorcerer playing off the Wizard in 3e; the sorcerous bloodlines in 3e; the Assassin playing off the Rogue in 1e; the defender/striker/controller/leader variants in 4e, etc...As noted in #36 above, the learning more is available in PF without needing any archetypes.</blockquote>