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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6267394" data-attributes="member: 42582">Numbers added by me.1, 8 and 10 look the same to me. Within the context of D&Dnext, they look like some kind of bonus to CON checks/saves. (Perhaps STR for helping others with their burdens, assuming that's intended literally.)6 looks like a bonus to a certain category of STR checks - perhaps advantage on STR checks to do damage to object/bust open doors. That looks fairly core. Or perhaps a fighter chooses between the bonus to STR checks and the bonus to CON checks? Some version of these toughness features should be core to the fighter.4 is another save bonus. In D&Dnext, it is Indomitable, which seems to me to come too late. But D&Dnext is right to treat it as core.2 and 3 look the same to me. That strikes me as pretty close to a core feature for a fighter. It probably shouldn't be WIS-based - fighters should be better at it than (or at least as good at it as) multi-class fighter/clerics.5 looks like a feat/skill. Other classes want it to - many paladins, some rangers and barbarians. I think making it a core fighter feature is too narrowing for those other classes.11 looks like the Streetwise skill, or perhaps a background of some sort. I don't think it can be core to a fighter, because rogues and bards should also both have access to it.Finally, that leaves 7 and 9. I think this is where there is the greatest scope to make a fighter versatile and effective in non-violent conflict. (As well as allowing the fighter to be more versatile in combat, via leadership.) It can't be too heavily CHA-dependent or else the fighter will suck at it. Care needs to be taken also to complement the paladin and cleric rather than step on their toes. But I think something along these lines is pretty core.</blockquote>

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