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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 6272591" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>[MENTION=23935]Nagol[/MENTION]</p><p>That's very persipacious of you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> In a lot of ways I agree that 1e (as well as BD&D) did the fighter's non-combat utility more justice than 3e/4e because of the way rules were designed completely independent of class.</p><p></p><p>My thought is that if there's a rule for it (hirelings, magic item bonding, environemental survival, allegiances, and so on) then a character ability can be designed to interact with it.</p><p></p><p>For example, you mentioned threat detection. Rangers and rogues might interact with those rules thru scouting, spellcasters thru divination, and maybe fighters (and bards to some extent) thru "old contacts from the war." While in a settlement a fighter might be able to look up an old war buddy and access military reports...it would imply a different sort of information than what a scrying spell or scouting run, one with a topdown military slant, but that could be very useful in the right circumstances.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually I was thinking of Gygax's 1e barbarian in Unearthed Arcana back in 1982 or thereabouts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 6272591, member: 20323"] [MENTION=23935]Nagol[/MENTION] That's very persipacious of you :) In a lot of ways I agree that 1e (as well as BD&D) did the fighter's non-combat utility more justice than 3e/4e because of the way rules were designed completely independent of class. My thought is that if there's a rule for it (hirelings, magic item bonding, environemental survival, allegiances, and so on) then a character ability can be designed to interact with it. For example, you mentioned threat detection. Rangers and rogues might interact with those rules thru scouting, spellcasters thru divination, and maybe fighters (and bards to some extent) thru "old contacts from the war." While in a settlement a fighter might be able to look up an old war buddy and access military reports...it would imply a different sort of information than what a scrying spell or scouting run, one with a topdown military slant, but that could be very useful in the right circumstances. Actually I was thinking of Gygax's 1e barbarian in Unearthed Arcana back in 1982 or thereabouts. [/QUOTE]
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