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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JMISBEST" data-source="post: 8929023" data-attributes="member: 7036159">What's NuTSR?, I've never heard of themAlso a thought about his new liege being 1 of his 2 illegitimate sons that he's never acknowledged, never supported, for many years he often bad mouthed both his sons and both of their mothers, 1 each, and willingly let both of the their mothers die even though he could have easily saved both of themMy thought is that despite all the horrible things he has previously done to his new liege those things were done before the guy was elevated to both a member of the nobility and his father/the Barons new liegeBut what I don't know is can his new liege punish his vassal/his father, for things his vassal/his father, did before he was promoted to the new liege of A Vassal Baron/his dad, and if he does get revenge what do you suggest he could do?Also even if he can't get revenge on his new Vassal Baron/his dad, his younger half brother will definitely be able to when he becomes King by marriage and its possible that he will be able to get revenge when he becomes A Prince by marriage and if his younger half brother does get revenge what do you suggest he could do?</blockquote>