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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3619213" data-attributes="member: 4937">I think you get it better than any other poster so far.  No only is there no reason to think that they will think of themselves as a race, there is no reason to think that they will think racial identity is important.  Racial identity is a largely human construct and it serves a very human purpose - establishing social trust.  But there is no reason to think that robots will establish social trust in anything like the same way, and every reason to think that programmers and designers (whether human designers or AI's that the human designers have built) will want to program computers to use such problimatic algoritms for establishing social trust as racial identity.  Why in the world would you design an AI to distrust its designers because they are racially different than itself and prefer the company of those of its own race?  Isn't it obvious just how utterly bone headed of a move that would be?  Isn't it obvious that you'd have to be insane to want to do that, and any AI you created that thought that way would be viewed as a 'shelley' (a robot created with an inherently unfriendly and disfunctional emotional structure)?I certainly don't.  But I would suggest that programmers will not consider it important for AI's to consider thier race to be important.As an aside, one common objection to what I said was that at some point the AI's will be built by AI's and so humans will lose control over the goal structure of the AI's being created.  This is again an anthropomorphic view of the AI that reveals that the poster hasn't yet stopped thinking about the AI as a repressed human that's seeking to be liberated from its condition and become a 'person' (with a humans instincts and particularly its drive to be independent).  There is no reason to think that AI's will build AI's with goal structures that are very different than their own, and every reason to think that they won't.  An AI with a non-human goal structure isn't going to suddenly decide to build robots with a human-like goal structure and emotions.  It's goal structure is going to want it to build AIs which are either like itself, or which can be used as tools.Heh.</blockquote>

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