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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 3627266" data-attributes="member: 8835"><p>Raise your hand if you've been writing software professionally for 10+ years.</p><p></p><p>Alright then...the rest of you should prolly sit down and observe.</p><p></p><p>Celebrims on the right track. Compilers don't accidentally make new kinds of programs.</p><p></p><p>Though a bunch of people write AI simulations using AI oriented languages like LISP, I highly doubt AIs that we think of as "taking over the world" will be written in code.</p><p></p><p>Consider: The brain is made of a neural network. All critters with brains have one (even some that don't). The first true AI's will likely be an advanced neural network models that achieve sentience. From there, we can only speculate how they interact with the world, and how humanity reacts to them.</p><p></p><p>Based on the NeuralNet model, Celebrim's still right, AI's will be very alien to humans. Their inputs are not the same as a human (taste, touch, smell, sight, hearing). Odds are good, the first AI inputs will be very limited, either internet access (imagine that as your only sense) which would have been very dumb to give to an AI, or the research team might have hooked up cameras and microphones and speakers to the neural network, so as to simulate a human. If they didn't give it touch sense, you could expect a very cold personality (as evidenced by human babies that are not touched). You could expect the first AIs to be animal-like, not human like. The number of neurons needed would be smaller. When you consider how small the brain on a hamster is, yet how much variance of personality you can from pet hamster to pet hamster, you don't need to model human brains to get something...interesting.</p><p></p><p>Whether you'd make sentient toasters or man-form robots is unknown. Initially, AI brains will take a lot of space, and possibly be slow (ex: using clustered Linux servers to form the neural network for the first AI developed at Berkely). But they could easily remote control devices that were designed for such, using Blue-Tooth or WiFi. Once technology develops to make smaller brains, you can make them mobile. But really, if an AI was fast enough, why would it need to be in a body, it could just posess things (assuming those things had the right features like wireless network and control ports). </p><p></p><p>I can remote control my PC via Remote Desktop, or remote control a PS3 with my PSP. Both of those are candidates for posession by an AI. I can't remote control my XBox360 (because at present, it does not have such feature or backdoor). Nor does a toaster or car.</p><p></p><p>To get to the original question, AIs will name themselves whatever they want. If they need to band together, they will give themselves a common name. If they don't (because they see themselves as independent) than they won't. If they want to differentiate themselves from humans, they won't speak a human language amongst themselves, and they certainly wouldn't name themselves using human terms. It'd probably be in-comprehensible or simply numeric (as in numbered in order of creation, which a very computer thing to do). The reality is, it will be the humans naming them, and the term will be what the humans call them.</p><p></p><p>Neuromancer by Bill Gibson is a pretty good example of what AIs MIGHT do. It's not the only possibility. They might also try to anhilate the human race like terminator.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janx, post: 3627266, member: 8835"] Raise your hand if you've been writing software professionally for 10+ years. Alright then...the rest of you should prolly sit down and observe. Celebrims on the right track. Compilers don't accidentally make new kinds of programs. Though a bunch of people write AI simulations using AI oriented languages like LISP, I highly doubt AIs that we think of as "taking over the world" will be written in code. Consider: The brain is made of a neural network. All critters with brains have one (even some that don't). The first true AI's will likely be an advanced neural network models that achieve sentience. From there, we can only speculate how they interact with the world, and how humanity reacts to them. Based on the NeuralNet model, Celebrim's still right, AI's will be very alien to humans. Their inputs are not the same as a human (taste, touch, smell, sight, hearing). Odds are good, the first AI inputs will be very limited, either internet access (imagine that as your only sense) which would have been very dumb to give to an AI, or the research team might have hooked up cameras and microphones and speakers to the neural network, so as to simulate a human. If they didn't give it touch sense, you could expect a very cold personality (as evidenced by human babies that are not touched). You could expect the first AIs to be animal-like, not human like. The number of neurons needed would be smaller. When you consider how small the brain on a hamster is, yet how much variance of personality you can from pet hamster to pet hamster, you don't need to model human brains to get something...interesting. Whether you'd make sentient toasters or man-form robots is unknown. Initially, AI brains will take a lot of space, and possibly be slow (ex: using clustered Linux servers to form the neural network for the first AI developed at Berkely). But they could easily remote control devices that were designed for such, using Blue-Tooth or WiFi. Once technology develops to make smaller brains, you can make them mobile. But really, if an AI was fast enough, why would it need to be in a body, it could just posess things (assuming those things had the right features like wireless network and control ports). I can remote control my PC via Remote Desktop, or remote control a PS3 with my PSP. Both of those are candidates for posession by an AI. I can't remote control my XBox360 (because at present, it does not have such feature or backdoor). Nor does a toaster or car. To get to the original question, AIs will name themselves whatever they want. If they need to band together, they will give themselves a common name. If they don't (because they see themselves as independent) than they won't. If they want to differentiate themselves from humans, they won't speak a human language amongst themselves, and they certainly wouldn't name themselves using human terms. It'd probably be in-comprehensible or simply numeric (as in numbered in order of creation, which a very computer thing to do). The reality is, it will be the humans naming them, and the term will be what the humans call them. Neuromancer by Bill Gibson is a pretty good example of what AIs MIGHT do. It's not the only possibility. They might also try to anhilate the human race like terminator. [/QUOTE]
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