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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 2651208" data-attributes="member: 20805">So, if they fail the REF save, they fall prone. If they attempt to move at Half speed, they need to get at least a 5 on thier balance check or they fall prone. If they attempt to move at full speed, they need at least a 10 on thier check or fall prone.&nbsp;The SRD swarms are Cats and Spiders. They can fall down. Cool. So, Prone Swarm of Cats/Spiders takes a move action to stand up again. Then they need to beat 5 {or 10} on the balance check in order to move. They both have a Balance skill of +10... so pretty much they ignore it from that point on.Oops, the Centipede Swarm fits as well...Okay.. now what? How is a Prone Centipede Swarm different than a non-Prone Centepede Swarm? Umm..... I cannot see treating a Centipede Swarm as Prone... it wouldn't look any different than normal anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So, per RAW, the spell can force a landbased swarm to burn a move action if it fails the initial REF save when the grease appears under its feat.. otherwize it has no real effect.Perhaps the Raw should have been clear on whether a Swarm can have the condition of Prone applied to it or not. Oh well, one more bit of sillyness for OOTS <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 2651208, member: 20805"] So, if they fail the REF save, they fall prone. If they attempt to move at Half speed, they need to get at least a 5 on thier balance check or they fall prone. If they attempt to move at full speed, they need at least a 10 on thier check or fall prone. The SRD swarms are Cats and Spiders. They can fall down. Cool. So, Prone Swarm of Cats/Spiders takes a move action to stand up again. Then they need to beat 5 {or 10} on the balance check in order to move. They both have a Balance skill of +10... so pretty much they ignore it from that point on. Oops, the Centipede Swarm fits as well...Okay.. now what? How is a Prone Centipede Swarm different than a non-Prone Centepede Swarm? Umm..... I cannot see treating a Centipede Swarm as Prone... it wouldn't look any different than normal anyway. :) So, per RAW, the spell can force a landbased swarm to burn a move action if it fails the initial REF save when the grease appears under its feat.. otherwize it has no real effect. Perhaps the Raw should have been clear on whether a Swarm can have the condition of Prone applied to it or not. Oh well, one more bit of sillyness for OOTS :) [/QUOTE]

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