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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2653668" data-attributes="member: 2011">True.I avoided your question. Partially because I have disliked Sculpt Spell as broken for a long time, even for other similar sized spells. I especially dislike the 4 cube aspect of it because there are no rules on where you can place them. And for smaller area spells, it is definitely broken when compared to Widen Spell.I think a &quot;spread of grease&quot; would affect all creatures AND all inattended objects in the area unless they made saves.The real issue with Grease is that it doesn't make a lot sense when you discuss a Swarm with the possible exception of reduced movement.A literal ruling is that a Flying Swarm is in the area and is also a creature, hence, it is affected by a normal Grease spell. But, it does not make sense that a Flying Swarm is affected at all.Ditto for a non-flying swarm, it is just a little easier to see how they are affected. However, swarms have certain &quot;falling down&quot; immunities and certain &quot;targets only part of the swarm, so it does not affect the swarm&quot; immunities, and although Grease does not directly fall into those categories according to RAW, it does fall into those categories according to how Swarms work.According to RAW, all Swarms would be affected by Grease. According to how Swarms are designated (cannot be tripped, cannot be affected by spells that only affect a few creatures), that makes very little sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2653668, member: 2011"] True. I avoided your question. Partially because I have disliked Sculpt Spell as broken for a long time, even for other similar sized spells. I especially dislike the 4 cube aspect of it because there are no rules on where you can place them. And for smaller area spells, it is definitely broken when compared to Widen Spell. I think a "spread of grease" would affect all creatures AND all inattended objects in the area unless they made saves. The real issue with Grease is that it doesn't make a lot sense when you discuss a Swarm with the possible exception of reduced movement. A literal ruling is that a Flying Swarm is in the area and is also a creature, hence, it is affected by a normal Grease spell. But, it does not make sense that a Flying Swarm is affected at all. Ditto for a non-flying swarm, it is just a little easier to see how they are affected. However, swarms have certain "falling down" immunities and certain "targets only part of the swarm, so it does not affect the swarm" immunities, and although Grease does not directly fall into those categories according to RAW, it does fall into those categories according to how Swarms work. According to RAW, all Swarms would be affected by Grease. According to how Swarms are designated (cannot be tripped, cannot be affected by spells that only affect a few creatures), that makes very little sense. [/QUOTE]

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