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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 3920241" data-attributes="member: 710">I am afraid than that it would be hard to say something has evolved at all, if we only base evolution on being the only survivor from 2 variants. Humans have evolved from ape-like beings, yet there still are ape-like beings. Some of them died, yes, but not all. Vancian Magic in D&amp;D terms? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Not neccessarily.&nbsp; Maybe 4th edition and the current player base is the comet or climate change that leads to the extinction of a species that lived for a long time.My personal view is that evolution can be applied to most concepts where things change. Because all things change in reaction to an environment, to in some sense better fit into it. But not always is change needed, and not always does change work. Change is just a mutation, which might happen by accident or due to reaction to outward influences. Evolution is a mutation/change turning out to be better suited to its enviromnent. But nobody should misinterpret evolution as making things better in a general sense, as being an &quot;directed force&quot; with a set goal in a mind (it's just an emergent property of a system), and nobody should believe that &quot;being evolved out of something&quot; means &quot;morally or ethical superior&quot;...Ah, well, it would at least be easier if we do it now then after 10 pages of back &amp; forth discussion, so yes, let's do it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> (If you feel compelled to answer to anything I posted, I hope I can restrain my urge to post something in response. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 3920241, member: 710"] I am afraid than that it would be hard to say something has evolved at all, if we only base evolution on being the only survivor from 2 variants. Humans have evolved from ape-like beings, yet there still are ape-like beings. Some of them died, yes, but not all. Vancian Magic in D&D terms? :) Not neccessarily. Maybe 4th edition and the current player base is the comet or climate change that leads to the extinction of a species that lived for a long time. My personal view is that evolution can be applied to most concepts where things change. Because all things change in reaction to an environment, to in some sense better fit into it. But not always is change needed, and not always does change work. Change is just a mutation, which might happen by accident or due to reaction to outward influences. Evolution is a mutation/change turning out to be better suited to its enviromnent. But nobody should misinterpret evolution as making things better in a general sense, as being an "directed force" with a set goal in a mind (it's just an emergent property of a system), and nobody should believe that "being evolved out of something" means "morally or ethical superior"... Ah, well, it would at least be easier if we do it now then after 10 pages of back & forth discussion, so yes, let's do it. :) (If you feel compelled to answer to anything I posted, I hope I can restrain my urge to post something in response. :)) [/QUOTE]

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