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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 3138748" data-attributes="member: 7635">True, and perhaps that is the biggest thing I dislike about C&C; there is no distinction between characters. Everyone is equally good at something if they have a similar ability score and class. It was one of my primary complaints in older editions of D&D as well. For example, I say "I want to build a fighter who is a master of the bastard sword". Depending on the edition of D&D, the DM says...OD&D: Ok. You're a master of a bastard sword, but that grants you no mechanical bonus over any other fighter.First: Ok, take proficiency in bastard sword. Every other weapon has a -2 to hit with.Second*: Ok. Spend another wp to become specialized. You get a +1 to hit, +2 to damage, and faster # of attacks.Basic/Cyclopedia: Ok, continue selecting WP in bastard sword until you are a grand master with better damage dice, more attacks, and unique abilties as shown on this chart.Skills and Powers: Ok. Spend some character points to become specialized, then a master, high master and finally grand master.Third: Ok, take weapon focus, weapon specialization, improved critical, greater wf and wpn spec, and check out some of these feats in PH2...The same can be said for thief skills, etc. The further back, the less mechanically that defined who you were. Some DMs love that (everyone is mechanically the same, RP the differences) others like those differences on their character sheet. Anyway, back to the OP: I'm going to say you can't. Both are SO ingrained into 3.5 that you cannot remove them. Fighters, Bards, Rogues, Rangers, Wizards all rely on a skill or feat for some or all of there class abilities. Monks, Druids, Clerics, and Barbarians also take a hit. Really, only Paladins and Sorcerers seem pretty self-sufficient in that area. Magical items would need to be reworked. The monster manual would be useless. Spells would need to be rewritten (Find Traps?) Racial traits would need adjustment. In short, you're re-writing the whole bloody thing. I'd say forget it and player either C&C or an older version of D&D at that point.* Yes, I know Unearthed Arcana introduced Specialization first...</blockquote>

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