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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Khairn" data-source="post: 4611978" data-attributes="member: 20153">I voted for the 3rd option, as I felt that with enough changes (improvements ?), that 4E is a system that I could adopt.  I'm appreciating certain aspects of the game more and more, as I delve into it.  But I need to add a caveat to my choice.Compared against what I believe was their customers expectations, the initial 4E PHB was deliberately designed to be incomplete and require the purchase of both DDI and additional PHB's.  That decision goes hand in hand with the "everything is core" mantra that WotC has adopted and is trying to push down into their customer base.  I can certainly understand the reasons for doing this from a business perspective, but from a players perspective it rubs me the wrong way.Over the years I purchased many of the 3E splat and expansion books.  I made the decision to expand the scope of my game and use optional rules based on the usefulness or improvements they brought to my game.  But that is not a decision I can make with 4E.  If I am going to adopt 4E, WotC's marketing / design plan to require the purchase of additional PHB's just to fill a baseline number of character roles and power sources would have to be changed.  If Martial, Divine and Arcane are the starting Power Sources, why shouldn't we have expected and received 12 character classes in the PHB ? (3 Sources x 4 Roles)  That would have given players a complete game to start with.I do not want to buy an incomplete game, which is what 4E is if you don't buy the DDI and the new PHB.  Unfortunately this particular horse has already left the gate and I can't see WotC publishing a "Complete PHB" anytime soon.Sorry about the rant, but its early in the morning and I haven't had my coffee yet.</blockquote>

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