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<blockquote data-quote="kenmarable" data-source="post: 4611981" data-attributes="member: 40359">It depends on what you by &quot;win over&quot;. &quot;Get me to play it&quot; - Well, I'm already there (at least going to give it a try soon), but all of the other classic material would have been nice. &quot;Get me to playing 4e exclusively and convert both my groups to it&quot; - I don't see that happening. One of my groups is going to give 4e a try since it seems more pick-up-and-play-quickly friendly which appeals to them, whereas the other group isn't even considering it since they really dislike a lot of the changes and enjoy the &quot;mastery&quot; aspect others have mentioned about 3.5. Plus as a member of that group, I don't want to convert either. I have far, far too much 3.5 material I want to use and explore not to mention that although I'm coming around to accepting that 4e might be a fun game, 3.5 is pretty darn close to my ideal vision of D&amp;D and is my favorite edition I've ever played (started with Red Box).&quot;Get me to buy as many WotC books as I bought in 3.x&quot; - Again, I don't see this happening because for one thing, I can't afford it, but even so, I'm planning on my 4e purchases being the core rules and a DDI subscription. I greatly dislike the setting changes so far, and have so much setting material from 3.x anyway, that all I really need are the rules, which DDI can get me enough of. Back in 3.x I was a self-described &quot;WotC Whore&quot; and bought 95% of the books they produced. Since 4e's launch, I haven't spent a dime on WotC, and even if I keep playing 4e, I can't see spending as much as I used to given how much great 3.x material I still have and can use.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kenmarable, post: 4611981, member: 40359"] It depends on what you by "win over". [i]"Get me to play it"[/i] - Well, I'm already there (at least going to give it a try soon), but all of the other classic material would have been nice. [i]"Get me to playing 4e exclusively and convert both my groups to it"[/i] - I don't see that happening. One of my groups is going to give 4e a try since it seems more pick-up-and-play-quickly friendly which appeals to them, whereas the other group isn't even considering it since they really dislike a lot of the changes and enjoy the "mastery" aspect others have mentioned about 3.5. Plus as a member of that group, I don't want to convert either. I have far, far too much 3.5 material I want to use and explore not to mention that although I'm coming around to accepting that 4e might be a fun game, 3.5 is pretty darn close to my ideal vision of D&D and is my favorite edition I've ever played (started with Red Box). [i]"Get me to buy as many WotC books as I bought in 3.x"[/i] - Again, I don't see this happening because for one thing, I can't afford it, but even so, I'm planning on my 4e purchases being the core rules and a DDI subscription. I greatly dislike the setting changes so far, and have so much setting material from 3.x anyway, that all I really need are the rules, which DDI can get me enough of. Back in 3.x I was a self-described "WotC Whore" and bought 95% of the books they produced. Since 4e's launch, I haven't spent a dime on WotC, and even if I keep playing 4e, I can't see spending as much as I used to given how much great 3.x material I still have and can use. [/QUOTE]

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