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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FourthBear" data-source="post: 4612012" data-attributes="member: 55846">I've been playing since 1979 or so and have many fond memories of the boxed sets, 1e, 2e, 3e and 3.5e.  I've been playing for the past 10 years or so with a group of older gamers, most with experience back to at least 2e.  During the release of 3e, a couple of our Old Guard hated it with a passion and made all the usual complaints about power creep, video game influence and attempts to appeal to a younger generation.  Since I'm the primary DM, I introduced a new campaign using 3e (with significant grumbling) and we've had a lot of fun with it (although a couple of them are still fond of 1e and 2e, not enough to DM their own games yet).  Oddly, one of the primary 2e Old Guard who disliked 3e so much has really been taken with 4e and even has started DMing with it (a complete surprise to me).  He noted that while he enjoyed playing 3e, he didn't like the idea of DMing it.  He's had a lot of fun DMing 4e.  As for myself, I was a big proponent of 3e when it first came out and still believe it to have numerous excellent design decisions and changes.  However, when Mearls came out with his list of design goals for 4e, I agreed with every single one.  So I'm very much one of the greying haired Old Guard who has enthusiastically adopted 4e.As to what WotC could do to entice fans of previous editions who do not like 4e?  Perhaps release some older, classic campaigns, like the upcoming Giants series, for 4e.  Like many have said before and on this thread, it's unlikely that those who have already looked at it and made up their minds will change them readily.  Especially if that change would involve purchase of additional books.  I think that it would best for WotC to simply concentrate on releasing the best 4e books that it can.  People can decide for themselves whether it's worth playing on their own.  I don't think there's much they can do to lure reticent buyers over that isn't also appropriate to appeal to new gamers entirely.</blockquote>

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