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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4612175" data-attributes="member: 5889">To me the 4e complaints fall into 2 categories, the "Wait and See" ones and the "Fundamental Flaws".Wait and See Complaints: Certain builds I can't make, there is a lack of flavor about monsters or races, I don't have enough variety to make my characters unique compared to other people etc.These are wait and see because they can be theoretically fixed with more books and more time. One thing about the old guard is they tend to have more money than younger gamers and so can afford to purchase more books (maybe not all at once, but over a few years).Fundamental Flaws: These are subsystems of the game that are not going to go away. If you cannot stand healing surges for example, that is something that will likely never change no matter how many books come out.Now 3e has its own fundamental flaws, so its a question of tradeoffs. If you fix the wait and see issues, then some people may find 4e's flaws less than 3e's and make the switch. However, I think there are a significant amount of wait and see complaints that is preventing the transition right now.</blockquote>