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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greg K" data-source="post: 4612228" data-attributes="member: 5038">My group is comprised of individuals 19-40. Four players are 19-23, one is 27 and the others are 36-40. We also have there other part-time players (ages19,21,37) The 19-23 year olds started rpging mid to late 2e or 3e (evenly split).Here is what think that 4e did right:1. most Non biological aspects of race as feats. 2. multiclassing does not grant automatic armor and weapon proficiencids3. multiclassing does not grant saving throw bonuses4. unified save progression5. No Level Drain6. No XP costs 7. spellcasters are balanced (despite my dislike of the mechanics).8. more starting hit points9. Feywild10. ShadowfellWhat would it have to do to get us playing? For starters1. More nods towards simulation2. Biological racial abilities should be the same regardless of whether a PC or NPC (dark vision vs. low light vision).3. Remove Per Encounter and Daily.  For martial exploits, go with a Book of Iron Might appoach.4. Replace Divine Challenge5. Not all class abilties  need to do damage (e.g, illusions spells in the Dragon article)6. Less consolidation of skills and reintroduction of craft, perform, and profession7. reintroduce sKill points for PCs and remove the +1/2 level bonus from level that applies to ability checks and skill checks.8. Rework Hit Points.  9. Rework Action Points to be more like M&M Hero Points 10. Introduce a Star Wars Condition Track 11. Rework the rules for Healing and Healing surges12. Add rules for long term injury13. Remove alternate abilities scores to hit (e.g, Con)14. Rewrite the rules for Daily Items15. Rewrite Milestones (see Rel's House rules)17. Rewrite  monetary types, and equipment lists to be  like earlier editions.18. Clarify how p.42 is supposed to be used (see the thread elsewhere on this forum).19. Give the DM a system for building combat maneuvers20. Go back to all or nothing for things like the medusas gaze21. More real world animals22. More fluff on monster23. More non-combat abilities for monsters</blockquote>

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