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<blockquote data-quote="Khairn" data-source="post: 3861391" data-attributes="member: 20153">Despite all my complaining, I know I'll be buying at least the 1-3&nbsp; books to look through them.&nbsp;&nbsp; My goal will be to see if I can use the rules to play the kind of game that I enjoy.&nbsp; A couple of things that would be a show-stopper for me would be ...- 1 Too simplistic&nbsp; IMHO 3E is a very easy game to play, and understand.&nbsp; A couple of rules are quirky, but that's why we have house rules.&nbsp; If 4E dumbs the game down to much I won't be playing it.-2 DDI &nbsp;&nbsp; If I even get a whiff of important or key elements of the game only being available to those players who pay the monthly subscription fee, I will drop the game without any hesitation.&nbsp; Its a table top game, not an MMORPG.- 3 No Pizzazz&nbsp; If the game doesn't &quot;wow&quot; me, I won't be recommending it to my groups and I doubt we'll be playing it.&nbsp; I've got 2 exciting D20 games going right now with all players happy with the results, even though we all wish we could play more often.&nbsp; 4E is just one of a number of alternate systems that we will be considering for the future.&nbsp; If there's no &quot;pizzazz&quot; in the books, they won't make it to our table.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Khairn, post: 3861391, member: 20153"] Despite all my complaining, I know I'll be buying at least the 1-3 books to look through them. My goal will be to see if I can use the rules to play the kind of game that I enjoy. A couple of things that would be a show-stopper for me would be ... - [B]1 Too simplistic[/B] IMHO 3E is a very easy game to play, and understand. A couple of rules are quirky, but that's why we have house rules. If 4E dumbs the game down to much I won't be playing it. -[B]2 DDI [/B] If I even get a whiff of important or key elements of the game only being available to those players who pay the monthly subscription fee, I will drop the game without any hesitation. Its a table top game, not an MMORPG. - [B]3 No Pizzazz[/B] If the game doesn't "wow" me, I won't be recommending it to my groups and I doubt we'll be playing it. I've got 2 exciting D20 games going right now with all players happy with the results, even though we all wish we could play more often. 4E is just one of a number of alternate systems that we will be considering for the future. If there's no "pizzazz" in the books, they won't make it to our table. [/QUOTE]

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