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<blockquote data-quote="Loonook" data-source="post: 5906504" data-attributes="member: 1861">...<img src="http://art.ngfiles.com/images/86/keepwalking_golem-vs-mech.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />They do look a lot different when you put them beside each other.<a href="http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/misc/irongolemsarehollow.html" target="_blank">Iron Golems are hollow</a>, based on math... Of course clay golems are not, but the weight of an iron golem makes them hollow.The space within a large golem could quite easily contain a humanoid.&nbsp; And a Shield Guardian-style control system fixes all of your issues.&nbsp; In a D&amp;D setting you can, again, price out the cost of a golem, bind a spirit of intellect or element into a large suit of armor... And you have a mech.&nbsp; Or you can actually look up the prices for mechs in a sourcebook that has them... Like D20 Future.&nbsp; Which lists the price of a Mech, if you use their conversion of Dollar Costs to GP, to be around...The same cost as a Golem of comparable size <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />. Or you can create a really complex series of rules to solve an issue that is resolved internally within d20 sourcebooks.Your call.Slainte,-Loonook.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Loonook, post: 5906504, member: 1861"] ... [IMG]http://art.ngfiles.com/images/86/keepwalking_golem-vs-mech.jpg[/IMG] They do look a lot different when you put them beside each other. [URL="http://www.seankreynolds.com/rpgfiles/misc/irongolemsarehollow.html"]Iron Golems are hollow[/URL], based on math... Of course clay golems are not, but the weight of an iron golem makes them hollow. The space within a large golem could quite easily contain a humanoid. And a Shield Guardian-style control system fixes all of your issues. In a D&D setting you can, again, price out the cost of a golem, bind a spirit of intellect or element into a large suit of armor... And you have a mech. Or you can actually look up the prices for mechs in a sourcebook that has them... Like D20 Future. Which lists the price of a Mech, if you use their conversion of Dollar Costs to GP, to be around... The same cost as a Golem of comparable size :D. Or you can create a really complex series of rules to solve an issue that is resolved internally within d20 sourcebooks. Your call. Slainte, -Loonook. [/QUOTE]

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