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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 5712517" data-attributes="member: 149">Er what does a well regulated militia for purposes of defending the state against Redcoats or Native American attacks have to do with protecting ourselves in the place of police? Who are arguably intended to be that militia.You keep using the words "2nd Amendment", but they don't seem to mean what you think they do.The problem with everyone being ready to resort to violence at the drop of a hat, is that, well people will resort to violence at the drop of a hat. That doesn't really seem like an improvement to me personally.Self reliance and being willing to help your neighbors or strangers is a good thing, but vigilante action almost invariably leads to all sorts of abuses. Laws exist for a reason and we have standards of evidence, because when you just start killing people out of hand. People "everyone" knows are "bad" guys, well people start taking advantage of that to settle petty scores and minorities they don't like. etc...Dirty Harry and movies like that are nice fantasies, but not such a good idea in the real world.Yeah! Because we're living under constant threat of Invasion! Er. wait last time was the War of 1812, just shy of two hundred years ago. No wait the English did invade us again in the 1960s. Who exactly are we supposed to be afraid of invading again?BTW, how's your approach working for Afghanistan? They sound like pretty much the embodiment of the kind of approach you are advocating...Well at least we can agree on the evils and treachery of those dammed Canucks! Coming to the US and stealing all of our Stand Up comedian and TV News Anchor jobs!</blockquote>

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