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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 5716887" data-attributes="member: 8835">well, my point about legal precedent is if there's enough cases where the self defender gets off, it reinforces letting the next one off (particularly if you have a good lawyer).And of course, Texas's self defense laws are a bit more open.   The way most people talk about what they should be able to do, it's a shock that other states don't have the same laws given that they don't match to the mindset of the people.In any event, when I cited the Castle Law, in texas, it sums up to necessary force in defense of self or other or property owned by self or other.  There's also a time of day clause (dusk or later I think).  The gist is, the Horn case was OK because he was defending a neighbor's property AND it had the right time of day.If the crooks had dropped the loot and run down the street, he'd be hosed.  But as long as they were holding the loot, he could probably chase them all night.In any case, you're arguing that by the letter of the law, the grandma should be in jail.  I do not disagree with that interpretation of the law.I would disagree with the law itself.  I would advocate changing the law if the government punished its citizens for doing what its police officers failed to do, protect and serve. (constrained to the immediate crime event, not hunting down criminals or patrolling like Batman).My premise is that the police cannot prevent all crimes, nor be in all places.  As such, despite their mandate to protect and serve, they do not have the right to restrict grandma's ability to protect her interests from criminals (who are in effect Terrorists, which this country is in a state of war over).  Basically, they can't bitch about how she did their job because they weren't there doing it.  Given the solve rate for random crime is piss poor, grandma busting a cap in his ass was the best lead the cops had to catching the guy.  Therefore, citizens dealing with the matter directly when it happens may be more effective in some instances.</blockquote>

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