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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 1388775" data-attributes="member: 13098">Hm, the character decided to negotiate with Evil and broke an oath to another Paladin?OK, from the SRD:Code of Conduct: A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class abilities if she ever willingly commits an evil act.Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents.Associates: While she may adventure with characters of any good or neutral alignment, a paladin will never knowingly associate with evil characters, nor will she continue an association with someone who consistently offends her moral code. A paladin may accept only henchmen, followers, or cohorts who are lawful good.There are a few considerations here.&nbsp; First of all, are all Blue Dragons Evil in your game?&nbsp; If so, then the PC is associating with an evil character.&nbsp; Do you consider breaking an Oath an affront to Honor, or just a really dumb mistake?&nbsp; The other considertation is whether you and the player have really sat down and discussed the Code of Conduct.&nbsp; This is a crucial step whenever you have character with a Code of Honor, Code of Conduct, etc.&nbsp; Both of you need to have a fairly good expectation on what the limitations are and what will be construed as a code violation.&nbsp; It is quite possible to write a very acceptable code that is more lenient in some ways and much more strict in others for your campaign.&nbsp; There have been a ton of threads on the Paladin's Code here on EN World.With the core rules, this particular situation, and no other mitigating circumstances, I sure would be tempted to yank the Paladin's status as well.&nbsp; The Paladin is trying to negotiate with an Evil creature that should be detroyed.&nbsp; That arrow should have been presented to the dragon by a bow.&nbsp; He has insulted another Paladin by breaking his trust and violating an Oath.&nbsp; All of those circumstances together would be bad.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BSF, post: 1388775, member: 13098"] Hm, the character decided to negotiate with Evil and broke an oath to another Paladin? OK, from the SRD: Code of Conduct: A paladin must be of lawful good alignment and loses all class abilities if she ever willingly commits an evil act. Additionally, a paladin’s code requires that she respect legitimate authority, act with honor (not lying, not cheating, not using poison, and so forth), help those in need (provided they do not use the help for evil or chaotic ends), and punish those who harm or threaten innocents. Associates: While she may adventure with characters of any good or neutral alignment, a paladin will never knowingly associate with evil characters, nor will she continue an association with someone who consistently offends her moral code. A paladin may accept only henchmen, followers, or cohorts who are lawful good. There are a few considerations here. First of all, are all Blue Dragons Evil in your game? If so, then the PC is associating with an evil character. Do you consider breaking an Oath an affront to Honor, or just a really dumb mistake? The other considertation is whether you and the player have really sat down and discussed the Code of Conduct. This is a crucial step whenever you have character with a Code of Honor, Code of Conduct, etc. Both of you need to have a fairly good expectation on what the limitations are and what will be construed as a code violation. It is quite possible to write a very acceptable code that is more lenient in some ways and much more strict in others for your campaign. There have been a ton of threads on the Paladin's Code here on EN World. With the core rules, this particular situation, and no other mitigating circumstances, I sure would be tempted to yank the Paladin's status as well. The Paladin is trying to negotiate with an Evil creature that should be detroyed. That arrow should have been presented to the dragon by a bow. He has insulted another Paladin by breaking his trust and violating an Oath. All of those circumstances together would be bad. [/QUOTE]

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