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What would you do with this oathbreaking paladin?
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<blockquote data-quote="Whitey" data-source="post: 1389390" data-attributes="member: 15994"><p>Here's a pretty straightforward approach to handling this.</p><p>Does the paladin's oath, the potential breaking of that oath, and the subsequent quest for redemption or descent into scumbucketry, provide interesting and meaningful decisions/goals for the character? A paladin character needs to be the type with a lot of ethical gravitas, and a strong relationship with the deity that empowers them. The oath they take is a big one - it's a compact that makes them martial champions of good, not some deal with an arrow, or some knight, or to not jaywalk. The oath they take hangs heavy on them, but it's not there to hang them with.</p><p></p><p>Does the paladin's oath, the potential breaking of that oath, and the subsequent quest for redemption or descent into scumbucketry, provide interesting and meaningful decisions for the player? If the player comes to see the oath as something that's there to penalize them, to detract from their ability to portray that character - whether it's by following or failing its strictures, that's likely to lead to a disinterested or angry player. The oath is not a lobotomy. The player should have that choice in their actions, even if it means facing some consequences.</p><p></p><p>Paladins don't cower under the blankets, wondering if they've earned the ire of a fearsome deity which could well lead to their death. Blackguards, maybe. </p><p>Paladins don't exist to kill everything with a different alignment, stopping only when they are killed. Blackguards, maybe. Paladins take a sacred oath to uphold the cause of Big G Good - Good does not screw with its adherants, but rewards them for being just and seeks to keep them on an earnest path.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whitey, post: 1389390, member: 15994"] Here's a pretty straightforward approach to handling this. Does the paladin's oath, the potential breaking of that oath, and the subsequent quest for redemption or descent into scumbucketry, provide interesting and meaningful decisions/goals for the character? A paladin character needs to be the type with a lot of ethical gravitas, and a strong relationship with the deity that empowers them. The oath they take is a big one - it's a compact that makes them martial champions of good, not some deal with an arrow, or some knight, or to not jaywalk. The oath they take hangs heavy on them, but it's not there to hang them with. Does the paladin's oath, the potential breaking of that oath, and the subsequent quest for redemption or descent into scumbucketry, provide interesting and meaningful decisions for the player? If the player comes to see the oath as something that's there to penalize them, to detract from their ability to portray that character - whether it's by following or failing its strictures, that's likely to lead to a disinterested or angry player. The oath is not a lobotomy. The player should have that choice in their actions, even if it means facing some consequences. Paladins don't cower under the blankets, wondering if they've earned the ire of a fearsome deity which could well lead to their death. Blackguards, maybe. Paladins don't exist to kill everything with a different alignment, stopping only when they are killed. Blackguards, maybe. Paladins take a sacred oath to uphold the cause of Big G Good - Good does not screw with its adherants, but rewards them for being just and seeks to keep them on an earnest path. [/QUOTE]
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