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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 1390114" data-attributes="member: 13098">You know, when I read the thread, it didn't even occur to me that the OP might have meant a permanent stripping of Paladinhood.&nbsp; Obviously, my terminology doesn't match what everyone else seems to mean.&nbsp; Oops!&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />OK, when a paladin has a transgression against their CoC, I would tend to strip them of powers _temporarily_.&nbsp; It takes a very big, willful slide to have the Paladin completely Fall from Grace.&nbsp; While breaking and oath is bad in this case, it does not warrent a fall from grace.&nbsp; The Paladin should have to attone and can restore his powers.&nbsp; The stripping of powers is a sign.&nbsp; Paladins derive their power from their conviction (since not every Paladin must worship a god) and their adherance to the CoC.&nbsp; When you violate your Code, you lose that conviction (even if you don't notice) and you lose that mystical touch to power.&nbsp; You must reaffirm your committment, your conviction, before you recover your powers.Obviously, a good deal of my campaign is bleeding over into this post.&nbsp; But, this is why I work with my players to develop the CoC for their character.&nbsp; Actually, I try to work with all of my players to establish a lot of framework for their characters so I can find ways to put them in the spotlight at times.&nbsp; But, the Paladin's CoC is one of those &quot;must discuss&quot; issues in my mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BSF, post: 1390114, member: 13098"] You know, when I read the thread, it didn't even occur to me that the OP might have meant a permanent stripping of Paladinhood. Obviously, my terminology doesn't match what everyone else seems to mean. Oops! :) OK, when a paladin has a transgression against their CoC, I would tend to strip them of powers _temporarily_. It takes a very big, willful slide to have the Paladin completely Fall from Grace. While breaking and oath is bad in this case, it does not warrent a fall from grace. The Paladin should have to attone and can restore his powers. The stripping of powers is a sign. Paladins derive their power from their conviction (since not every Paladin must worship a god) and their adherance to the CoC. When you violate your Code, you lose that conviction (even if you don't notice) and you lose that mystical touch to power. You must reaffirm your committment, your conviction, before you recover your powers. Obviously, a good deal of my campaign is bleeding over into this post. But, this is why I work with my players to develop the CoC for their character. Actually, I try to work with all of my players to establish a lot of framework for their characters so I can find ways to put them in the spotlight at times. But, the Paladin's CoC is one of those "must discuss" issues in my mind. [/QUOTE]

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