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<blockquote data-quote="Dykstrav" data-source="post: 5645698" data-attributes="member: 40522">Count me as one of the people that believes that the rogue does a fine job of covering the ninja. I seem to remember boatloads of people playing 4E's rogue as a ninja when 4E first came out, and a multiclass rogue/monk as a ninja in 3E's early days.I don't think that a game (any edition or version) needs a distinct ninja class, but players are going to constantly clamor for it since a ninja is supposed to be &quot;cooler&quot; than a rogue.If I had a player that really wanted to play a ninja as a distinct class in my Pathfinder game, I'd tell them to make it a rogue with the monk's ki pool, weapon proficiencies, and Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat, with their choice of either the monk's bonus feats or flurry of blows. I'd have them lose rogue talents, trapfinding, and the rogue's normal weapon proficiencies. I haven't checked out Ultimate Combat yet, I'm hoping that the ninja there is something like that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dykstrav, post: 5645698, member: 40522"] Count me as one of the people that believes that the rogue does a fine job of covering the ninja. I seem to remember boatloads of people playing 4E's rogue as a ninja when 4E first came out, and a multiclass rogue/monk as a ninja in 3E's early days. I don't think that a game (any edition or version) needs a distinct ninja class, but players are going to constantly clamor for it since a ninja is supposed to be "cooler" than a rogue. If I had a player that really wanted to play a ninja as a distinct class in my Pathfinder game, I'd tell them to make it a rogue with the monk's [I]ki[/I] pool, weapon proficiencies, and Improved Unarmed Strike as a bonus feat, with their choice of either the monk's bonus feats or flurry of blows. I'd have them lose rogue talents, trapfinding, and the rogue's normal weapon proficiencies. I haven't checked out [I]Ultimate Combat[/I] yet, I'm hoping that the ninja there is something like that. [/QUOTE]

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