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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 2145537" data-attributes="member: 307">No, I am implying that if you want to play a good-aligned character, don't be surprised when evil actions change your alignment. Characters who want to retain their "good" alignment should not evolve into evil.You seem to be missing the point of the post: the characters behaved in an evil fashion, the DM pointed this out and their actions had consequences (since he has said he is using an alignment violation system, he docked them xp), and the players got themselves worked into a tizzy and tried to assert that clerly evil acts were, in fact, good.Or who try to argue that evil acts are, somehow, actually good.I'm not sure he was so offended over the acts, but that the acts were perpetrated by supposedly good characters, directed by players who didn't see any kind of contradiction between their actions and the alignment written on their character sheet.I don't see the DMs response as being the problem. They made a choice, it had consequences, the players whined about those consequences. The problem isn't the DM here, its the players. If you take an action, expect consequences.Which is perfectly in line with how he has said he was running the campaign to that point: using an alignment violation system. Personally, I would have simply shifted the PCs alignments towards the evil axis of the scale, and then they would have made a good target for a good-aligned NPC party to hunt down, noting, of course, that a collection of 4 5th level PCs is an appropriate challenge for a party of 9th level NPCs.</blockquote>

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