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Message: <blockquote data-quote="twofalls" data-source="post: 2151298" data-attributes="member: 23718">Responses to many posts -John Morrow - I did in fact read the article as promised but didn't post a reply as you invited me not to. Very interesting article by the way, I'm an emotional person just like my mother, and I can see how emotions play a large part in my decision making processes. I think there is a lot of merit to your suspicion that I was identifying with the NPC's that were killed. I felt, and still feel that what was done was wrong. I see that the majority of the folks posting here don't agree with me on that point, and they have good arguments, but it seems my basic moral fiber simply wont be swayed on this issue about killing helpless folk. It became personal when my friends said they themselves would do the same, that really got to me. I was thinking emotinally, they were thinking rationally, and then they became emotionally invested when I became angry and started to defend themselves.Princess Bride happens to be one of my all time favorite movies. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Was the Swordsman wrong to kill the evil bad guy? Yeah, in the strictest sense he was. A victim's sense of justice is a lot different than impartial justice as you, I'm sure, are aware of (being why impartiality is so striven for in most justice systems). You could argue that the PC's were victims and were thus dealing out a victims justice, but the situation, after having defeated their attackers just didn't feel that way. Thats the best (read: most honest) answer I'd have for that argument.D+1 - I bascially agree with most everything you said. I think this thread has become so large and so intricate with other peoples suggestions and assumptions though, that you are assuming some things about my play style that aren't accurate. So I'm not going to address your post point for point... Yep, I made a mistake. I've made quite a number of mistakes over my career as a GM, and have learned a lot about managing small groups because of them. I've broken up a group because of a bad decision before. In the final analysis however, I'm a darn good GM and have had a lot of accolades over my career for it. Right now I have a lot of people who want to play in my games (many more than I can fit in my groups), and all of this is why I know its true. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> So mabye cut me a few feet of slack please? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Malic - I'm very sorry your game wasn't able to be pulled together. For my part, my game was rescued because these fellows are all very good friends and inclined to be forgiving. Heck I've known some of these guys for over 20 years. When I put moral quandries into the game I do so trying not to be invested. The situation that started this thread was unique (something that many posters don't seem to be getting) in that I took it personally. It just happened that way. Maye the stars were aligned against me that day in a particular fashion, or I had a conversation a week ago that impacted my emotions that day, or making love with my wife that morning wasn't as good as it normally is. I just can't say why that situaiton put me off so much, but it did. I absolutly feel that what was done was murder and was wrong. I also know that I over reacted to it. I always have docked xp for alignment infractions. Of the many things that this thread has me thinking about, that's the one thing that I can think of right now that will end up changing in my games because of it. I'd argue that you can't be 100% divested from moral delima's that you weave into your stories. Perhaps you can 100% not react outwardly to them, but not be 100% emotionally unattached. That's a human condition IMO.Runesong42 - If they were Orcs? I can't say if I would have reacted the same without going through the whole thing excatly as it happened without having gone through all the fallout I have since. I'd like to say yes, I can say that I would still consider it reprehensible and wrong. Would I have reacted the same way? How can I give you an honest answer?</blockquote>

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