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<blockquote data-quote="John Morrow" data-source="post: 2160363" data-attributes="member: 27012"><p>You don't have to reply (really, I'm not trying to bait you back into the thread <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) but I thought of a situation where the heroes in a television show acted almost exactly the same way the PCs in your game did. In the TV Show <u>Firefly</u>, there is a situation very similar to the one you described in the first episode shown by Fox in the US (<u>The Train Job</u>).</p><p></p><p>(SPOILER ALERT)</p><p></p><p>At the end of the episode, the Mal (captain of the Firefly) asked the wounded and bound thug Crow to take the money they were paid back to his boss. The thug towers over Mal and tells him to keep the money, because Crow will hunt him down no matter where he goes and kill him. In response, from the shooting script, "He [Mal] kicks Crow back -- and the huge fellow is instantly SUCKED into the engine of the ship. It's very sudden, but the resultant crunching noise goes on for a bit. A beat, and Zoe shoves one of Crow's henchmen in front of Mal." Mal then says, "Now. this is all the money. Niska --" The hencman doesn't even let him finish and agrees to give the money to Niska.</p><p></p><p>Basically, Captain Mal kicks a bound and helpless man into a starship engine and uses that to terrorize the next henchman into doing what he wants. The key difference between this and the example is that Crow threatened the Captain rather than simply refusing to cooperate. That doesn't change the fact that the person killed was bound and helpless or that the captain was playing judge, jury, and exectutioner, but I'm curious if that threat is enough to give the character the moral justification to kill a helpless and bound thug. I'm not claiming that Mal or the crew of the Firefly is Good. I am curious if people think this makes them Evil.</p><p></p><p>(END SPOILER ALERT)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="John Morrow, post: 2160363, member: 27012"] You don't have to reply (really, I'm not trying to bait you back into the thread :) ) but I thought of a situation where the heroes in a television show acted almost exactly the same way the PCs in your game did. In the TV Show [u]Firefly[/u], there is a situation very similar to the one you described in the first episode shown by Fox in the US ([u]The Train Job[/u]). (SPOILER ALERT) At the end of the episode, the Mal (captain of the Firefly) asked the wounded and bound thug Crow to take the money they were paid back to his boss. The thug towers over Mal and tells him to keep the money, because Crow will hunt him down no matter where he goes and kill him. In response, from the shooting script, "He [Mal] kicks Crow back -- and the huge fellow is instantly SUCKED into the engine of the ship. It's very sudden, but the resultant crunching noise goes on for a bit. A beat, and Zoe shoves one of Crow's henchmen in front of Mal." Mal then says, "Now. this is all the money. Niska --" The hencman doesn't even let him finish and agrees to give the money to Niska. Basically, Captain Mal kicks a bound and helpless man into a starship engine and uses that to terrorize the next henchman into doing what he wants. The key difference between this and the example is that Crow threatened the Captain rather than simply refusing to cooperate. That doesn't change the fact that the person killed was bound and helpless or that the captain was playing judge, jury, and exectutioner, but I'm curious if that threat is enough to give the character the moral justification to kill a helpless and bound thug. I'm not claiming that Mal or the crew of the Firefly is Good. I am curious if people think this makes them Evil. (END SPOILER ALERT) [/QUOTE]
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