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<blockquote data-quote="John Morrow" data-source="post: 2167415" data-attributes="member: 27012">We're talking about doing something that the GM considers personally abhorrent.&nbsp; I don't get the impression that you think slitting the Zhent's throat was abhorrent but do consider raping an elf maiden abhorrent.&nbsp; What I'm trying to see is how you'd react if you were faced with your players doing something in a game that you were GMing that was personally abhorrent to you and defended it, not only in the game but on real-world grounds.&nbsp; That is analogous to what happened here.That said:Do you think that, &quot;You wouldn't slit the Zhent's throat,&quot; would have be a correct response to the situation?What would you do if the player objected to being told that their character couldn't rape the elf maiden and insisted that you should let them?You wouldn't be disgusted with your players if they insisted that they should be able to rape the elf maiden, objected to your interference in the way their characters are being played, and defended their characters' actions on the grounds that they'd do exactly the same thing in the real world if they could get away with it?That's what I want to know.&nbsp; If you wouldn't be disgusted or say something, then your principle that a GM should never be disgusted at their players because of what they do in a game and should never tell them they are disgusted stands.&nbsp; If you would be disgusted or say something, then it's not a matter of general principle that being disgusted or saying something is always wrong, but simply a matter of degree of disgust.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="John Morrow, post: 2167415, member: 27012"] We're talking about doing something that the GM considers personally abhorrent. I don't get the impression that you think slitting the Zhent's throat was abhorrent but do consider raping an elf maiden abhorrent. What I'm trying to see is how you'd react if you were faced with your players doing something in a game that you were GMing that was personally abhorrent to you and defended it, not only in the game but on real-world grounds. That is analogous to what happened here. That said: Do you think that, "You wouldn't slit the Zhent's throat," would have be a correct response to the situation? What would you do if the player objected to being told that their character couldn't rape the elf maiden and insisted that you should let them? You wouldn't be disgusted with your players if they insisted that they should be able to rape the elf maiden, objected to your interference in the way their characters are being played, and defended their characters' actions on the grounds that they'd do exactly the same thing in the real world if they could get away with it? That's what I want to know. If you wouldn't be disgusted or say something, then your principle that a GM should never be disgusted at their players because of what they do in a game and should never tell them they are disgusted stands. If you would be disgusted or say something, then it's not a matter of general principle that being disgusted or saying something is always wrong, but simply a matter of degree of disgust. [/QUOTE]

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