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<blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4456575" data-attributes="member: 11821">First - what can you do?(1) Why didn't anyone try to jump over the oozes?&nbsp; Assuming someone was trained in Athletics, they would only need a 21 or so to make the jump as a move action.&nbsp; Sure, they suffer an OA, but really - better that than death.&nbsp; (Note - on reflection, this is assuming your DM would allow something like this.&nbsp; I suppose technically you can't move through a foe, but it's a freaking floor-crawling ooze, so I'd allow it, myself. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)(2) The gnome is small and can therefore occupy the same space as the jelly.&nbsp; He can run around/through it, though he would suffer an OA.&nbsp; Sadly, reactive invisibility won't help with the tremorsense-capable jellies.(3) Did the dragonborn have his breath?&nbsp; He could have fried at least 2 of the rats if so.Really, though, as a DM, I think your DM screwed you over.Specifically, I think the dire rats are acting a bit too intelligently!Really, if the DM is playing them like animals, they should probably either have gotten the heck out of there and waited for scraps, or else rushed forward to attack the PCs through the corners.&nbsp; It's clear that they set themselves up as push-blockers, which is just not ratlike at all.I mean, this would have been tactically smart for intelligent foes, but for unintelligent foes...&nbsp; well, it's too smart.Assuming these were brainy oozes and cranium rats, I'd say they set themselves up pretty well to kill off your party.-O</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Obryn, post: 4456575, member: 11821"] First - what can you do? (1) Why didn't anyone try to jump over the oozes? Assuming someone was trained in Athletics, they would only need a 21 or so to make the jump as a move action. Sure, they suffer an OA, but really - better that than death. (Note - on reflection, this is assuming your DM would allow something like this. I suppose technically you can't move through a foe, but it's a freaking floor-crawling ooze, so I'd allow it, myself. :)) (2) The gnome is small and can therefore occupy the same space as the jelly. He can run around/through it, though he would suffer an OA. Sadly, reactive invisibility won't help with the tremorsense-capable jellies. (3) Did the dragonborn have his breath? He could have fried at least 2 of the rats if so. Really, though, as a DM, I think your DM screwed you over. Specifically, I think the dire rats are acting a bit too intelligently! Really, if the DM is playing them like animals, they should probably either have gotten the heck out of there and waited for scraps, or else rushed forward to attack the PCs through the corners. It's clear that they set themselves up as push-blockers, which is just not ratlike at all. I mean, this would have been tactically smart for intelligent foes, but for unintelligent foes... well, it's [I]too [/I]smart. Assuming these were brainy oozes and cranium rats, I'd say they set themselves up pretty well to kill off your party. -O [/QUOTE]

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